2 January 2025

I Have Been Disinvited by IJAN from Speaking at the Picket of Israeli Ambassador Tzipi Hotoveli

Below is the Speech I Would Have Made When Challenging the Police to Arrest Me Again

Last night I posted a blog advertising a speech I was going to give at the picket of Tzipi Hotoveli on Friday evening. Tonight I received an email from Sam Weinstein of the International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network (IJAN) withdrawing that invitation. You can judge for yourselves whether the reasons given were the real reasons and whether IJAN feared that events were getting out of their control. I have saved both emails here.


The alleged reason for the cancellation concerns my refusal to get involved, despite considerable pressure, in the case of alleged harassment of an Israeli activist which dates back many years. I was accused of taking the side of the alleged harasser, which I reject, but nonetheless I confess that I have wrestled with the issue. I have taken the advice of others not to make any further comment on it.

What is important though is the issue of the Metropolitan Police implementing the ‘illustration’ of anti-Semitism in the Zionists’ IHRA definition of anti-Semitism, which states that ‘Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis’ is anti-Semitic. At a time of genocide this and only this, is what matters, not an arcane personal dispute.

Below is what would have been my speech to the picket/ demonstration next Friday.

I am only going to provide a few links, not only because of the time it takes but because, if I had made the speech, I would not have given any links!



Why comparisons between Israel’s holocaust in Gaza and the Nazi holocaust are valid and relevant

Comrades,

Three months ago, on October 4 2023, I was arrested at this demonstration by the institutionally racist Metropolitan Police for a ‘racially aggravated’ public order offence. In essence I was being accused of anti-Semitism for having compared the Zionist holocaust in Gaza to the Nazi holocaust. Comparing the Nazi treatment of Jews to Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians is now deemed by the Met to be ‘anti-Semitic’.

Despite being arrested, held for 7 hours in a cell and subject to restrictive bail conditions, I was informed 7 weeks later that the Crown Prosecution Service were not going to charge me. No doubt even the CPS could see the absurdity of charging someone who is Jewish with ‘anti-Semitism’!

People often say to me that even if allegations of Zionist collaboration with the Nazis is true it is better not to mention them for fear of giving unnecessary offence to Jewish people. My response is simple. We will never understand why Israel behaves the way it does unless we understand Zionism, the ideology that governs the actions of the Israeli state – its ethnic cleansing, its desire to ‘cleanse’ Gaza of the Palestinians and now its deliberate and targeted extermination of Palestinian civilians.

Bear in mind that even the terminology of the Israeli state today when it talks of ‘cleansing’ Gaza is identical to Nazi descriptions of  ‘cleansing’ areas of Jews.

The Nazi holocaust against the Jews is being used today to justify Israel’s holocaust of the Palestinians. In the words of Gideon Levy, a Ha’aretz columnist:

I have yet to hear a single teenager come back from Auschwitz and say that we mustn’t abuse others the way we were abused. There has yet to be a school whose pupils came back from Birkenau straight to the Gaza border, saw the barbed-wire fence and said, Never again. The message is always the opposite. Gaza is permitted because of Auschwitz.

People often say that Israelis are suffering from an ‘inter-generational holocaust trauma’.  My response is no. What they are suffering from is a settler-colonial trauma. The fear that the indigenous population that they have oppressed so long will rise up against them.

The slave owners in the Caribbean and the American colonies suffered from a similar trauma and their reaction to slave uprisings was not dissimilar to that of Israel’s reaction to October 7.


The Zionists have magnified October 7 out of all proportion. They have said that this was the largest slaughter of Jews since the holocaust. In fact the largest death of Jews since the holocaust was under the Argentinian Junta (1976-83) which tortured to death 3,000 Jews, up to 12.5% of those who disappeared.

Israel doesn’t mention what happened in Argentina however because at the time it was arming and training the Argentine military. It even refused visas to Argentine Jews because they were ‘the wrong sort of Jew’, a phrase you may have heard recently.

This is however a particularly noxious and racist comparison. Jews in Nazi Germany were killed because they were Jews.  Israelis were killed on October 7 because they were occupiers not because they were Jews.

Israeli deaths on October 7 pale in comparison with Israel’s repeated attacks on Gaza.

In Operation Protective Edge in the summer of 2014 some 2,200 Palestinians, including 515 children, were killed.  Death of Israelis on October 7 were 1139, half of this.  It is estimated that since the Nakba some 134,000 Palestinians and Arabs have been killed.

On 7 October 400 of the dead were soldiers and police and therefore legitimate targets. Because of Israel’s Hannibal Directive, which mandates that it’s better to kill your own people if they are taken hostage rather than allow them to be swapped for prisoners, that it’s highly likely that the majority of the remaining 739 Israeli deaths were at the hands of their own trigger happy military.

The New York Times Fraudulent Article that Alleged that Hamas had Planned October 7 as a Mass Rape Expedition

That is why we have had a non-stop barrage of atrocity propaganda from Israel.  First it was 40 beheaded babies, baked babies and babies hung from clothes lines. Then it the mass rape story despite there being no victims and no forensic evidence.

October 7 was the catalyst not the reason for the genocide taking place in Gaza today. Chants of ‘Death to the Arabs’ didn’t begin on October 7. Ben-Gvir, who had a picture of Baruch Goldstein on his wall (the man who murdered 29 worshippers in the Ibrahimi Mosque in Hebron in 1994) became Israel’s Minister of Police at the beginning of 2023. Gvir is a fully-fledged Jewish  Nazi. A Jewish Nazi list became the third largest in the Knesset in the November 2022 elections, not October 2023.

The reasons for making comparisons between Israel today and the Nazi period is quite simple. Any group of people, given the right set of conditions and circumstances, can become genocidal maniacs and Nazis. Racism is not a biological property.

There was nothing German about the Nazis’ extermination of the Jews. The Romanians were even more enthusiastic about killing Jews  when the Germans seemed to be winning the war. Slovakia asked the Nazis to take the Jews off their hands. Croatia even set up its own extermination camp, Jasenovac.

When Israeli ‘Defence’ Minister Yoav Gallant began the genocide, he described the Palestinians as ‘human animals’ the very phrase that Himmler had used about the Jews, when justifying the  Holocaust on October 4 1943 to senior SS Generals. Gallant also promised to starve them and deny water and fuel. Also Nazi tactics.

Netanyahu invoked the example of Amalek, the tribe that god had commanded the Israelites to wipe out – every man, woman, child and infant was to be murdered.

The number of calls to genocide by Israeli politicians is limitless. Israeli Heritage Minister Amihai Eliyahu suggested that dropping a nuclear bomb on the Gaza Strip was “one of the possibilities”. Law for Palestine released a database of over 500 genocidal statements by influential Israelis, including the President and Cabinet members.

Wiping out the Palestinians is a very popular idea in Israel. The most popular car bumper sticker in Israel is ‘finish them off’. Indeed if the comparison with Nazi Germany is wrong it is because the level of anti-Semitism amongst ordinary Germans was far less than that in Israel.

When the presenters of Israel’s oldest podcast ‘two nice Jewish  boys’ said

If you gave me a button to just erase Gaza, every single living being in Gaza would no longer be living tomorrow. I would press it in a second’

there was no condemnation in Israel, let alone a prosecution as would happen if an Israeli Arab were to say the same about Jews. Incitement to murder Palestinians is not an offence in Israel.

There are some who go even further. Rabbi Eliyahu Mali, of the pre-military Yeshivah Shirat Moshe, said:

‘“Whoever comes to kill you... does not only include the young man aged 16, 18, 20, or 30 who is now pointing a weapon at you, but also the future generation (the children of Gaza), and those who produce the future generation (women of Gaza), because there is really no difference,”

In other words one should kill children as well as their mothers because they may become the fighters of the future. Compare this with what Himmler said about killing Jewish children in a speech on October 6th 1943.

I did not assume to have the right to exterminate the men… and have the avengers personified in the children to become adults for our children and grandchildren.

When pogroms against Arabs broke out in Israeli towns in 2021one user wrote

“We are no longer Jews today. People from Holon, Bat Yam and Rishon Lezion go out to bring war. Today we are Nazis.”

Today in Gaza, with the destruction of hospitals and the murder of patients and doctors and the detention of people like Dr. Hussam Abu Safiya, the Director of Kamal Adwan hospital, in the Sdei Teiman torture centre, we can see the degeneration of Israeli society before our eyes. A society where 65% of the population is opposed to criminal prosecutions of those who rape prisoners.

Indeed in some respects Israel is going beyond what the Nazis did. In Budapest it was the Nazis’ protégés in the Arrow Cross, a Hungarian Nazi party, that murdered doctors and patients at two Jewish hospitals (Maros Street and Varosmajor Street). The Gestapo did not touch the hospitals. In Berlin the Jewish hospital survived untouched until the end of the war.  It is Israel which has a peculiar attraction for destroying Palestinian hospitals.

We should also ask ourselves whether the Nazi destruction of Jewish synagogues during Kristallnacht is any different to the Zionist destruction of virtually every mosque in Gaza?

Ever since its creation Israel has laid claim to inherit the memory of the Jews who died in the holocaust. The reality, as Gaza shows, is that Israel inherits the memory of those who killed Europe’s Jews.

In the words of an article in the Jewish Chronicle quoting what I said at Palestine Expo in 2019, ‘Israel is Hitler’s Bastard Offspring’.

I leave you with just one thought. If the level of racism in Israel today had been present in Europe during the Holocaust it wouldn’t have been 6 million Jews who died but 7 or even 8 million.

Tony Greenstein 

27 comments:

  1. This is indeed the horrific reality that I, as a German who has long studied Naziism and "the holocaust" and whose anti-Nazi family suffered much from the Nazis have had a very hard time communicating to many otherwise progressive and intelligent friends and family: that Zionism has indeed become Naziism, and in some way become even more satanic and depraved.

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    1. Do you not think Zionism can be bad without having to always compare it to Nazism ?

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    2. well the Nazis are usually considered to be the baseline of evil, the standard by which everyone else is measured and given that Zionism itself does this so frequently is there any reason why I shouldn't?
      Zionism justifies what it does by reference to the holocaust so that is another reason to make the comparisons and also Zionism has indeed absorbed much of their racial ideology

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    3. Thats a good argument, but I was asking anon 05:34 the question. Having said that, and seeing as you seem intent on constant comparisons of Zionism and Nazism, what I will ask is, why are you silent on the Nazi origins of Palestinian nationalism ?
      As for your assertion about Zionism and the holocaust, how do you explain the fact it existed prior to it ?

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    4. I usually delete the outpourings of this idiot Zionist, since he supported banning me at a university campus he can't complain that I'm depriving him of his free speech.

      However since he is a persistent chap I'm allowing one of his comments through. He asks 'why are you silent on the Nazi origins of Palestinian nationalism?

      The answer is very simple, even for a Zionist to understand. The origins of Palestinian nationalism lay in dispossession and the takeover of the land they had lived on for hundreds of years. It had nothing to do with the Nazis.

      If he is referring to the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj al-Amin Husseini then the answer is simple. He was appointed by the Zionist High Commissioner, Sir Herbert Samuel DESPITE coming fourth in the elections. He wasn't elected he was appointed by the British and the Zionists.

      A slightly cleverer question is how do I explain the fact that Zionism existed prior to the Nazis? Yes Zionism predated the Nazis by about 30+ years. I compare the two phenomenon. I don't say they are identical but it is clear that Zionism was heavily influenced by Nazi Blood and Soil politics and today some Israelis say themselves that they see themselves as Nazis.

      But there are differences too. Zionism is a settler colonial not a fascist movement. In fact it is worse than fascism.

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  2. Tony, I hope you go to the demo against Hotoveli, whether invited to speak or not. As for what the Israelis are suffering from, it's corruption by Zionism and its fallacies, which has engendered in most of the population a sadistic psychopathology.

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    1. Hi Jack, No if IJAN who organise the demonstration have disinvited me, albeit for sectarian reasons, then I will respect their decision. I don't want to be a divisive figure and take attention away from the real target of the demonstration. In fact I got an inkling a couple of weeks ago that they weren't happy that the narrative was slipping out of their hands when Sam Weinstein sent me a waspish email. IJAN is basically a cultish group originating in the USA and its adherents are expected to toe the line, which I'm not good at!

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    2. "its adherents are expected to toe the line, which I'm not good at!" I like that! More power to you and best luck on fighting the disgusting terrorism charges, make them look like the fools they are.

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    3. This is very cogent and informative, Tony. And, as you say in one of the comments, it is important to remember that the majority of Zionists self identify as evangelical Christans not Jews, though I can see no overlap between their ideology and the actual reported teachings of Jesus of Nazareth himself.

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  3. Every word that Tony writes here is true, and needs to be said - again and again.

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  4. What is Zionism but blood and soil Nazism for Jews?

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    1. It is that but it's more than that. Don't forget that Zionism was first a Christian imperialist ideology long b4 Jews adopted it. That is still true today. Biden and Starmer both say they are Zionists which means that they have the right to impose their will on the Arabs. The question is when the Arabs will awaken and overthrow their rulers and collaborators

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    2. Soon, we must hope and work towards that end.

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  5. Perhaps it would be fair to ask which Genocidal group Israel and its supporters would prefer to be compared with.

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    1. I've heard Israelis comparing their conquest, settlement and genocide project to the formation of the United States, so it's not as if they don't know. They either speak approvingly of that earlier process, or reproach their American critics with having equally bloody hands.

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  6. When Israel has fulfilled its purpose, the autocrats will depart and leave.
    Israelis will then learn they should have been planning their future, not destroying it.

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  7. We could ask the Israelis and their many supporters which Genocidal group they would prefer to be likened to.

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  8. All the best Tony every word you write is true

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  9. Excellent statement Tony. I'll be in Swiss Cottage as usual tomorrow. Showing solidarity over your court case apparently was a step too far for IJAN.

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  10. Thanks, Tony. During the 1940s, before the Israeli state, British and US intelligence & government reports were explicitly comparing the Zionists to the Nazis, and worse (to memory, one 1943 US report called it "retrograde" Nazism).
    I used to NOT make the comparison, for the essentially philosophical reason that we should not have to compare Palestinian suffering to European suffering in order for us to know that it's bad (i.e., why shouldn't we say instead that the Nazis were so evil, that were fully as evil as the Zionists?).
    I hold to that principle still — but all that matters is, What will HELP, now? And here Tony is correct. If exposing the Zionists as Nazis — a 110% accurate comparison — helps stop today's holocaust by awaking "us" from our genocidal slumber, then we should do it more and more and more.

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  11. Zionists believe they have a God-given right to land which belongs to other people, and they are not going to take 'no' for an answer, whatever Goyim and international organisations like the UN think.

    For all their bluster about an 'existential threat', I do not believe they really fear a popular uprising. What they do fear is a Palestinian state with a right to acquire (nuclear) arms, and a single state where everybody is equal (reprisals). Palestinian leaders are assassinated in order to maintain the status quo - divide & rule and opportunistic land grabs.

    When unbelievers obstruct destiny it is no surprise we are given short shrift; smeared, slaughtered and everything inbetween. Why are people still shocked when the abused becomes the abuser?

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  12. Thank you Tony for stating the truth in plain English. What worries me is why so many accept the obviously false narrative of Israeli self defence? I don’t want to believe that a majority of people in this country are racist but the unquestioning acceptance of obvious racist lies, repeated by nearly all western establishments would suggest a public that has been too easily diverted or cowed into submission, or a public that has completely lost it’s moral compass. This is further supported by the difference in attitudes to the suffering of (white European) Ukrainians and the Arab Palestinians. This bodes very badly for the future politics of this country which has already moved further to the authoritarian right.

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  13. Adoption of the IHRA definiton of anti-Semitism by any institution is another example of the self-evident lies constantly issued by the Zionist propaganda machine. It is designed to ensure that it is 'illegal' (as opposed to immoral) to criticise the racist (terrorist) endeavour that is the State of Israel. I suggest that every individual living in a free & democratic society has a basic human right to freedom of speech & Zionists have a basic human right to be insulted. Keep on keeping on Tony!

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  14. As ever Tony, both the thrust and detail of what you write is absolutely correct.

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  15. What a strange disinvitation. What ever happened to "eyes on the prize?"

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  16. We have come a long way as a collective civilisation of many shades. The enlightenment product, our collective capacity for reason has clearly progressed. The World is bitterly angry at what is happening in Gaza. Despite the stupid and shrill complaints of rising levels of anti-Semitism (real, not as defined by IHRA) is clearly nonsense and even the shrieking voices of this nonsense have begun to realise that their cries ring hollow and begin to sound absurd. Even in a pitch of suppressed anger the world is not returning to the 19th century descent into racist hatred of Jews; the world is being clear to differentiate that Zionism is NOT Judaism. There are MANY courageous Jews who, like Tony are setting their humanity and integrity on the line and speaking out for Justice for Palestine but the world is also reasoning, despite the degenerate nonsense put out by Mainstream media, that it is the idiotic ideology of Zionism and the psychopathic fanatics who lead, mislead and brainwash a gormless Israeli public that is the root cause. Perhaps this is because the thinking wold have experienced first-hand what their own government and media has done, and how like it is to what Hitler, his NAZIs and their propaganda machine did to German society.

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  17. Did you happen to see this article on Counterpunch a few days ago Tony:

    Auschwitz to Gaza: The War Against International Law
    By Lawrence Davidson

    So how does today’s behavior of Israel, backed by its patron the United States, remind us of the Nazi disruption of international order? (1) Israel has evolved—driven by the very logic of Zionist ideology—to proclaim itself a state of Jewish supremacy. As described by B’Tselem, Israel’s own human rights organization, Israel seeks “Jewish supremacy from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea.” Today, we call this apartheid which international law and convention has designated a “crime against humanity.” (2) Since its inception, Israel has coveted “all the land of Biblical Israel, i.e. Gaza, the West Bank and other parcels of territory, as divinely designated “lebensraum” for the Jewish people. Presently, the ethnic cleansing of the Gaza Strip is being done in preparation for Israeli colonization. (3) That ethnic cleansing is perpetuated primarily by massive bombardment from the air and artillery barrages that reenact both the Nazi tactic of blitzkrieg and the U.S. tactic of “shock and awe.”....

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2024/12/31/auschwitz-to-gaza-the-war-against-international-law/

    Allan Howard

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