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Monday, 2 July 2012

Israeli ex-soldier: I support Palestinian armed resistance and understand terror

Andrey Pshenichnikov, who was arrested by Israel for residing in Bethlehem, says it is impossible to act within a moral framework while under occupation.

Andrey Pshenichnikov, June 11, 2012.
Andrey Pshenichnikov was arrested by Palestinian security forces at Israel's request in Deheishe refugee camp, June 11, 2012. Photo by Moti Milrod
By Nir Hasson | Jun.18, 2012       

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The former Israel Defense Forces soldier who soon after his discharge from the army moved to a refugee camp near Bethlehem in solidarity with the Palestinian cause, said in response to a Haaretz report on his decision that he supports Palestinian armed residence in every form.

"I support the armed Palestinian resistance and understand terror. Someone has told me that my views are considered extreme, but I don't care," said Andrey Pshenichnikov, the former soldier.

Pshenichnikov, 24, moved to Israel from the Soviet Union at the age of 11. After concluding the mandatory 36-month-service in the IDF, he signed up for an extra 18 months as a career soldier.

Pshenichnikov moved recently to the city of Bethlehem and lived in the Deheishe refugee camp, until he was arrested by Palestinian security forces at the request of Israel.

Pshenichnikov was detained for eight days, and upon his release he was charged with entering Palestinian territory, which is considered a closed military zone.

Following his release, Pshenichnikov had stated that he wishes to surrender his Israeli citizenship, and intends to do so in the next days. Since his story was published, Pshenichnikov said he received much support.

Politically speaking, Pshenichnikov defines his view as close to those of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. Pshenichnikov refused to see how the armed resistance and the Palestinian terrorism as a problem: "In Israel's terms, I support Palestinian terrorism," he said.

"What Israel defines as terror is merely a tool," Pshenichnikov told Haaretz,. "In the state the Palestinians are in, they will use the same tools as any other people in the same position. That's why I support the Palestinian resistance, regardless of its form. No-one has the right to criticize the Palestinian struggle since we are speaking of occupied people."

When asked if he distinguishes between violent attacks carried out against soldiers, settlers, or Israeli citizens residing within the 1967 lines, Pshenichnikov responded: "[In Israel] every citizen is a soldier at some point. As far as the Palestinians are concerned, there is no difference between the settlers of 1967 and the settlers of 1948."

"We are not talking about a war between two countries with an organized army and laws of war. In a state of occupation it's impossible to act within this moral framework. An occupier has no moral framework," he said.

Pshenichnikov does not see Zionism as a fundamentally bad, he still views it as a colonial movement: "It is not a crime stemming from an absolute evil, but from imperial interests," he said. "But it is a colonial movement just as any other colonial movement, as the Western colonial movements. It is based on the strong exploiting the weak."

Despite his political believes, Pshenichnikov does not regret coming to Israel from the former Soviet Union. "The Zionist movement requires people to come and replace the local population, and it gives a lot in return, so I benefited of it," he said, adding that he does not even regret serving in the IDF: "I was a part of the system; I didn't have enough information or strength to find a way out, so it wasn't my fault and I have nothing to regret."

See also Former soldier decides to live in West Bank as he 'hates Zionism'
Andre Pshenichnikov, Ex-Israeli Soldier, Seeks Palestinian Citizenship


Jack said...

As other few psycho's he, will move to the UK and will join Atzmon, I bet he will be your favorite then too, as all the other psycho's

Tony Greenstein said...

I think the psychos are those left in the Israeli army and unlike Atzmon, this guy seems as if he's got his head screwed on and is level headed.

Atzmon's whole story about his experiences and his reaction is suspect. He was appalled in 1982 yet said nothing for 20 years. Very strange don't you think?

Anonymous said...

Atzmon is motivated by his huge ego, and seeks to be the center of attention by using the Palestinian cause. If this young man who Jack calls a psycho doesn't parrot Atzmon's words, exactly to Atzmon's script, then he will be labeled an with the meaningless moniker AZZ. Atzmon polices the discourse, looking for those who distract from his attempts at control and ego gratification.

Tony may have opinions, but opinions do not qualify as making a person a psycho.

Tony Greenstein said...

Yes that is about right. Atzmon's most important concern is Atzmon. All else, including the Palestinians, are subsidiary.

Incidentally his AZZ is not his own invention either. The term anti-Zionist Zionist was first coined, as far as I'm aware, by a left-Zionist moving leftwards who was a genuine and sincere anti-racist. I refer to the late Steve Cohen of the Jewish Socialists Group who came to the ocnclusion that Israel and Zionism today was racist but that when it started it was anti-racist, because it was a reaction to anti-Semitism.

I disagree with Steve but had enormous respect for his tireless work for migrants and asylum seekers and he began seeing the contradictions when he succumbed to arthritis. A tragic loss and I have posted an obit. elsewere on the blog.

Atzmon's use of course is just intended to label anti-Zionist Jews as Zionists really. He's not worth bothering about these days since we demolished him at PSC and the Ali Abunimah letter. His supporters are very diminished in no. and it was interesting at his film review that there were mainly Iranians, not Palestinians, many of whom were very receptive to our arguments. Much to Atzmon's annoyance!

Gilad Atzmon said...

Atzmon has in fact posted a few times, mostly about past obsessions. He is very concerned about bankers being ripped off and things rather than ex-Israeli musicians ripping off the music and poetry of Palestinians such as Mahmoud Darwish and Reem Kilani. However I let the odd, non-abusive (by Jazzman's standards through!).

The following didn't seem to be attached to a post so I've reposted it under his name (Atzmon hates using his own name for some reason!).

Tony Greenstein

Tonyle - everyone is sure you are the anonymous one..... nice try...... you are the left fool, as usual on


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