Starmer's Only Achievement is to Make Boris Johnson Appear Truthful and Honest
The story of 5 year old Waad Jalaal’s miraculous
escape from a burning building that Israel bombed made the headlines this
week. Israel’s bombing of civilians taking shelter has been repeated hundreds
if not thousands of times.
Israel Deliberately Shoots at Those Collecting Food
from the ‘Humanitarian’ Aid Foundation
Equally sickening was
what happened at the aid distribution centre in Rafah on Monday June 2nd.
One of those seeking aid described the scene:
“As soon as we entered
the distribution point and started carrying the aid, the Israeli army opened
fire,” he explained. “The scene was horrific. We couldn’t see anything because
of the dust and the shelling and the heavy gunfire directed at us. Dozens of
people were killed. And the airstrikes also killed dozens of people.”
Is there anything more
sickening than Israel, having cut off food and water, then ‘inviting’ people to
go to its ‘humanitarian’ aid foundation
distribution centre and then, like trapped mice, opening fire on them. Yet
Starmer and his collection of war criminals and misfits, including his shoe
shine boy Lammy, say absolutely nothing. If this were Russia we
would not hear the end of it.
Even Channel 4, instead of titling it ‘Israeli
Murder at Aid Distribution Centre’ calls it
‘Tensions rise in Gaza amid confusion at aid site’. There was no confusion anymore than
there was confusion at My Lai when the Americans did the same in
Vietnam. But the Western media, even when covering these crimes wraps them in verbal
cotton wool.
The lie that Hamas bears responsibility for
Israel's targeting of civilians because they use them as 'human shields' is
just a license for Israel to rain down more bombs on hospitals, schools, UN
buildings , mosques and even churches.
The reality is that Israel has consistently forced Palestinians, including children, to become human shields by forcing them to enter building where Palestinian fighters may be present.
In comparison to Israel’s genocidal leaders, Hamas
chiefs are the equivalent of Victorian ladies taking tea at a summer’s garden
party. Israel’s War on Terrorism is a War By Terrorists on Gaza’s civilian
population.
The
Party’s Over: Zionism Must Be Dismantled – Ghada Karmi
We should recognise Israel’s campaign of mass
murder and extermination for what it is. Israel’s excuse that it is targeting
‘terrorists’ is risible. Civilians have been the overwhelming victims since
October 7. It isn’t Hamas but the Israeli state, Netanyahu and co. who are the
terrorists.
In this war against the civilian population or to
give it its proper name, Genocide or the Final Solution to the Palestinian
Question, Starmer, Lammy and the rest of the British Government are complicit.
Four hours after Lammy's statement that Israel's starvation of Gaza's
population and its renewal of its military attacks were
'monstrous' a spy flight
took off from RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus and spent around
five hours collecting footage over Gaza.
Words are cheap to war criminals. Another war
criminal emoting to no good effect this week was Heidi Alexander on BBC
Question Time. Not only did she lie when she said Britain wasn't supplying F35
parts to Israel, but in answer to the question 'why are you still supplying
arms to them' responded that she found the situation in Gaza “as sickening and as harrowing as every
single person in the audience.” which begged the question, 'why the
fuck don't you resign then and do some good for the first time in your life'?
The Israeli state was born in blood and fire in a
terrorist war directed at the British occupation and the Palestinian
inhabitants. The bombing of
the King David Hotel which caused 96 deaths and the Deir Yassin massacre when
over 100 Palestinians were murdered in cold blood are just some of the bloody
incidents to the credit of Irgun, the Revisionist terror group. Netanyahu's
Likud is the political descendant of this wing of the Zionist movement.
That is why, on 22 July 2006, an event was held in
Jerusalem to celebrate the bombing of the King David and amongst those
attending was Netanyahu. So much for Israel’s condemnation of terrorism.
Today streets and even a town, Kochav Yair,
are named after
Yair Stern, the founder of Lehi, who in 1940/41 made not one but two offers of
a military alliance to Nazi Germany.
It was Lehi which assassinated the
British Minister of State in Cairo, Lord Moyne, and the UN representative in
Jerusalem in 1948, Count
Folke Bernadotte. Both actions were planned and agreed
by Yitzhak Shamir, who was then in the leadership of Lehi and became Prime
Minister of Israel, twice in 1983-4 and 1986-92.
Francesca Albanese interview with Krishna Guru-Murthy
– There isn’t another case where the Genocidal Intent is so Obvious
Genocide
Netanyahu made his views crystal clear at the
beginning of the genocide when he stated that
You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. And we do remember.
Amalek was the tribe that God commanded the
Israelites to wipe out.
Now go, attack the Amalekites
and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death
men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.
For once Netanyahu was telling the truth, which is
why he spoke in Hebrew. Yet Starmer, Lammy and the rest of the detreitus in the
Labour Cabinet pretend not to know what Netanyahu meant by this biblical
allusion.
The evidence of an exterminationist mentality in
Israel was evidenced in a poll by
Pennsylvania State University this week which showed that
47% of Israelis wanted to do what Hitler did to the Jews – total
extermination. The same poll showed that 56 percent of Israeli Jews
support the expulsion of Palestinian citizens of Israel. This is Zionism,
racist to the core.
But it was even worse than that. As Skwawkbox pointed out 65%
said they believe that the Palestinians are a ‘current incarnation of
Amalek’ and of those, 93% said the (command) to wipe
them out still applies. In other words more than 60% agree with the wholesale
slaughter of Palestinians.
We have rabbis, like Rabbi Mali of Bnei Moshe
Yeshivah ruling that
children too must be killed and Israeli government ministers, from Smotrich (Gaza will
be totally destroyed) to Nissim Vaturi with his call to
‘burn Gaza’, reinforcing this message. Yet this despicable government of
war criminals cannot even sanction Smotrich and Ben Gvir, let alone say openly
and honestly that if Netanyahu sets foot on British soil he will be arrested
and sent to the Hague for war crimes.
Two nice Jewish Boys podcast dream of pressing a
button to annihilate 7 million Palestinians
The evidence that Israeli Jews support
exterminating Palestinians if they can’t expel them is everywhere but Western
leaders like Starmer turn a blind eye. Israel’s oldest podcasters Two
Nice Jewish Boys discussed how
they wish they could press a button to wipe Gaza out in an instance. The Friendship
Song broadcast on
Kan TV, Israel’s public broadcaster, had Israeli school girls sweetly singing
about the annihilation of the Palestinians.
We should take Israeli Jewish society at its word. Its attitude to Palestinians is no different from the Nazi attitude to the Jews. This is the only lesson that Israel has drawn from the holocaust. That what was done to the Jews can be done by the Jews. Except the Jews who died in the holocaust were mainly opposed to Zionism.
A little girl struggles to survive after an Israeli bombing hit Jerjawi School, which was sheltering displaced families in Al-Daraj, Gaza City. She was trapped in the flames. pic.twitter.com/JtGVXiWIO3
— The Palestine Chronicle (@PalestineChron) May 26, 2025
But whereas Waad Jalaal was lucky, 11 year old
influencer Yaqeen Hammad was not so lucky. Her house was deliberately
targeted by Israeli planes because anyone with the
potential to resist, anyone who attempts to lift the spirits of the
Palestinians, even a child, must die so that Israel’s monsters can continue
their ethnic cleansing.
Israel has missiles which can, as they boast, take
out a single flat in a multi-storey block. Yaqeen had to die in the same way
that the Nazis, when they invaded Poland decided that the intelligentsia,
including priests had to die. It was called Operation
Tannenburg. Israel
calls their operation Gideon’s
Chariots. The
name is different but the aim is the same.
Not only is the Israeli military and its child
killers terrorists, so too are their Western backers – such as Annalena Baerbock,
Germany’s former ‘Green’ Foreign Minister, Scholtz, Starmer & Trump.
The claim that Israel’s ‘war’ is against Hamas is a
lie. If it is true then there would not have been anything like the destruction
in Gaza. Israel has deliberately targeted all civilian
infrastructure.
Only last week thousands of Zionist settlers rampaged through East Jerusalem attacking anyone who was a Palestinian whilst police and the military looked on. Chanting their usual slogans of ‘Death to the Arabs’. Yet Starmer and his fellow Zionists in the Cabinet have nothing to say about this annual ritual.
She Went to
Gaza Twice: What She Saw Will Haunt You | Dr Mimi Syed on FloodGate
Every hospital, school, mosque, university and 90%
of homes have been destroyed in Gaza. All apparently contained a Hamas command
and control centre. Even its reservoirs and water treatment plants had Hamas
bases located within them because half of
them were destroyed! Strangely enough Israel
hasn’t produced even one photograph of a Hamas fighter firing at them from out
of a hospital or school. As Western doctors who worked in Gaza have testified
repeatedly, Israel’s allegations are yet one more lie.
Hamas militants are underground. They are the least
likely to be killed. It is people like Waad’s family and Yaqeen who are being
killed in Israel’s exterminatiof the Palestinians.
Bombing hospitals, homes, civilian infrastructure is a war crime yet Britain, Germany and the United States, to this day, continue to supply Israel with more weapons. And now they shed tears as they continue to supply those weapons. It is Starmer’s decision to continue to supply Israel with weapons with which to carry out yet more massacres which is why his claim that such attacks are ‘horrific’ ring hollow. Starmer, Lammy, Alexander and the rest of Labour’s war criminals have it within their power to call a halt to supplying Israel with more weapons.
I’ve seen the silhouettes of so many people—so many children—burning alive, that I can’t look at fire anymore without feeling sick to my stomach.
— Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt (@FranceskAlbs) May 26, 2025
WE
MUST
STOP
THIS
MASSACRE.
May the Palestinians forgive us. pic.twitter.com/LRBvWyDaru
Starmer’s denial of a genocide makes him no
different from neo-Nazi holocaust deniers. But whereas the latter are harmless,
the political equivalent of flat earthers, the denials of Starmer, Merz and
Trump have deadly consequences.
I therefore decided to pen an Open Letter to the
man who is best known as Kid Starver since he prefers spending
money on arms to abolishing the two child limit on benefit payments.
Tony Greenstein
Starmer’s Many Lies
Open Letter to Keir Starmer
Dear Starmer,
One of my few claims to fame was the fact that you
were the first person publicly to welcome my expulsion from the Labour Party in
February 2018. Being a man of few words and even fewer thoughts, you combined
your contribution to a single word – ‘good’.
Have you ever wondered why, after just 5 months in
office, you have been voted the
most unpopular Prime Minister in recorded history? It is your only achievement!
Everything about you is synthetic, including your squeaky voice and toolmaker
background.
You have the charisma of a wet fish on a warm
summer’s day and the personality of a baked tomato. However I wish to be fair.
There were other Prime Ministers who suffered from a lack of a strong
personality and charisma. The difference was that they were at least honest.
Clement Attlee was considered boring and dull but he was trusted nonetheless.
Starmer: Israel does ‘have that right’ to deny
Palestinians food and water
Starmer denies saying Israel 'has the right' to
withhold water and power from citizens in Gaza
The main reason for peoples’ hatred of you is your dishonesty, your inability to tell the truth. For you, the decision to tell the truth or a lie is simply a question of what is most advantageous. There is no principle involved. Telling the truth to you has no moral value in itself.
EURO-MED MONITOR: The occupation forces committed a massacre yesterday against dozens of people who were waiting for aid north of Gaza City. pic.twitter.com/TuDYksLp4i
— The Palestine Chronicle (@PalestineChron) November 14, 2024
And when you lie, instead of admitting that you lied you simply double down and lie again. Take your statement that Israel had the right to deny Palestinians food and water. Everyone could see and hear what you said, yet you still deny that you said it.
Official Israeli responses to ICC arrest warrants for Netanyahu & Gallant:
— The Cradle (@TheCradleMedia) November 21, 2024
- Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office:
"ICC decision is anti-Semitic, Israel rejects ridiculous and false charges against it."
- President Isaac Herzog:
"This is a dark day for justice. A dark day… pic.twitter.com/RKLM5g1UQH
You call yourself a human rights lawyer, Starmer but what you really are is an Opponent of Human Rights Lawyer. This was demonstrated when as Director of Public Prosecutions you did your best to extradite Julian Assange, whilst trying to cover for the Met Police who murdered a news vendor, Ian Tomlinson. You even had the files destroyed so your part in what happened could not be told.
However your determination to persecute Assange and
the autistic hacker, Gary
McKinnon was not matched when it came to Jimmy
Saville.
There was another lawyer in history who supported depriving those under occupation of food. His name was Hans Frank, the Governor of Nazi occupied Poland. His policy was ‘death by hunger’.
Compare Keir Starmer's statements on the siege of Gaza with his arguments at the International Court of Justice in 2014, where he argued that the Serb siege of Vukovar was a case of genocide.
— Nicholas McGeehan (@NcGeehan) November 28, 2023
A thread on Starmer, international law and Gaza. pic.twitter.com/lu0X6sgXfB
Over 83,000, 20% of the population of the Warsaw
Ghetto died from hunger. After the war Hans Frank was convicted
of warcrimes at the Nuremberg trials in 1946
and executed. Your support for Israel’s Nazi-style policy renders you also a
war criminal whose place belongs at The Hague.
What comes across when you speak is your
insincerity and lack of any conviction or principles. Your attacks on the
disabled are in marked contrast to your eagerness to
snap up any freebie on offer. What an achievement it was to come top of the
list of MPs receiving freebies.
Not only was your own wardrobe donated but even your wife’s knickers were paid
for!
When you were Director of Public Prosecutions
you billed taxpayers
for nearly a quarter of a million pounds in travel costs, three times as much
as your successor Alison Saunders, including first class flights abroad and a
chauffeur driven car. You charged taxpayers £161,273 for a chauffeur driven car
despite living just four miles from your office on a direct tube line.
You won the leadership of the Labour Party on a lie
or rather 10 lies (Pledges),
all of which you broke. The 4th Pledge ‘Promote Peace and Human
Rights’ stated that there would be
no more illegal wars. Introduce a Prevention of Military Intervention Act and put human rights at the heart of foreign policy. Review all UK arms sales and make us a force for international peace and justice.
Israel's attack on aid lorries and those trying to collect the aid
Well that lasted a long time! Where was the
parliamentary vote on the RAF’s secret flights over Gaza, supplying
intelligence to enable Israel’s murder spree? You said you were reviewing arms
sales to Israel but when it came to it you said you had stopped just 8%
of the sales. Even that was a lie because from October to December
2024 you
shipped more weapons to Israel (£128m) than in
the four years of Tory government (2020-23).
Starmer refuses to describe genocide
in Gaza as genocide
You described yourself as a ‘Zionist (i.e. a racist) without qualification’. At least that proved true. Like a neo-Nazi holocaust denier you denied that there was a genocide in Gaza when Israel’s leaders have boasted of their ‘intent to destroy, in whole or in part’ the Palestinian people from the outset. This is the Geneva Convention definition of genocide.
One of Gaza's most well-known doctors, Dr. Adnan Al-Bursh, was tortured to death by Israeli forces in April 2024.
— Middle East Eye (@MiddleEastEye) November 23, 2024
New testimonies revealed the harrowing details of his final moments in Israeli detention pic.twitter.com/Q5CfV1X9Bt
The israelis are targeting children: who in the world cannot see this? the list of babies alone should be enough to wake the planet up: perhaps not pic.twitter.com/vYzP7NpnDi
— Sarah Wilkinson (@swilkinsonbc) March 24, 2025
Starmer on
Srebenica's inhuman genocide
At the International Court of Justice in 1991 you argued that Vukovar, where 260 Croat men were killed, was a genocide. You have repeatedly said that other incidents of mass killing, such as in Srebenica in 1995, where 8,000 people were killed was a genocide. Yet when at least 100,000 people have died in Gaza you stay silent, denying that Israel’s extermination of Palestinians constitutes genocide. Perhaps you would be good enough to explain why Srebenica is a genocide and Gaza isn't?
Children killed, wounded in Israeli attack on Gaza
City school
Perhaps the soldiers who joked about
the destruction of Gaza’s only cancer hospital have escaped your attention?
Israel has repeatedly
attacked schools and other buildings where children
have congregated yet this too has escaped any condemnation by you.
Israel attacks children playing football in a Gaza
school killing over 30 'terrorists'
Israel has incarcerated thousands of Palestinian
prisoners in two torture camps, Sde Teiman and
Ofer Prison, yet you have chosen to see nothing, say nothing and hear nothing.
The medical neglect and participation
of Israeli doctors in the torture is comparable to
the medical experiments by Dr Mengele and the SS doctors in
Auschwitz. Truly the ‘Jewish’ state has come of age.
The Red Cross has been denied access and the Unlawful Combatants Law prevents prisoners seeing a lawyer for 6 months. These are the measures of a state deliberately using torture as a matter of policy.
Labour condemns the persecution of the Uyghur community in China.
— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) January 19, 2021
We will be supporting amendments in Parliament today to ensure Britain never turns a blind eye to genocide. https://t.co/N7NqpABiR7
The anal rape of men, causing the death of at least
one, starvation and beatings have led to at least 70 deaths, including
of Dr Adnan Bursh,
yet unlike your condemnation of Russia you have said absolutely nothing about
this.
The New York Times issued a detailed
report on the abuse and torture of prisoners such as
Mr Lubbad:
Mr. Lubbad, a
human rights worker with the Palestinian Center for Human Rights, said his
detention lasted a week. His hands were tied with rope that immediately began
digging into his skin. The detainees were forced into trucks, blindfolded and
hands restrained, still in their underwear, as soldiers hit them, Mr. Lubbad
said.
Only when they
arrived at a prison in the southern Israeli city of Be’er Sheva were they given
clothes. Each person was given a number on a blue tag and guards called them by
their numbers, not names.
At Auschwitz and other concentration camps
prisoners were known by their number not their name.
In the wake of the cold-blooded execution of 15 Red Crescent medics Ha’aretz condemned ‘the Gaza Atrocities Committed in Our Name’. Yet you remained silent refusing to condemn anything Israel has done or call its lies out.
Just voted to refer genocide of Yazidis & Christians by Daesh to UN and ICC to start process to bring perpetrators to justice @CamdenLabour
— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) April 20, 2016
The only thing that attracted words of
censure from you is the alleged atrocities, most of
which have been disproven,
on October 7th, which was a breakout from what even David Cameron called a ‘prison
camp’.
Contrary to the lies of the popular press and
media, just one Israeli Jewish baby, 10-month-old Mila Cohen, was accidentally
killed at Kibbutz Beeri. 1139 were killed on October
7, one third were soldiers and the majority of the rest were almost certainly
killed by Israel under its Hannibal
Doctrine which stipulates that it is better to kill an
Israeli rather than allow them to be captured and exchanged for Palestinian
hostages.
The only conclusion one can draw is that Jewish
lives matter more to you than non-Jewish lives. Thousands of Palestinian babies
and children have been killed yet you said nothing as the toll steadily rose
As Francesca Albanese said there
isn’t another case where the genocidal intent is as obvious and as documented
as in the case of Gaza. So why is it that you continue to deny there
is a genocide? Why are you so quick to
accuse Russia of war crimes but not Israel?
Israel's Most
GENOCIDAL Threat Yet - And Our Media Covers It Up - Israel Katz
Every time that an Israeli government Minister like
Israel Katz has threatened genocide
you have blocked your ears. The violence of slaves rebelling against their
masters was always of more importance to Britain’s imperial masters than the
day to day violence of slavery. Nothing seems to have changed.
Keir Starmer Goes
Full ENOCH POWELL - Is He Britain's Most Dishonest Politician Ever?
Starmer’s Adoption of Enoch
Powell
I realise that your friends in the Guardian have
done their best to defend a
speech that talked of Britain becoming an ‘island of strangers’. In
1968 Enoch Powell said that
‘white British people could find themselves “strangers in their own country”
as a result of Black immigration. Your phrase was carefully chosen and agree
with your speech writer. It was no accidental slip of the tongue. It was a
racist dog whistle which Yvette
Cooper defended . It was full-on Powell.
If anyone was under any doubt about what you said
then the matter was settled when the spokesman for Viktor Orban, the
anti-Semitic Zionist Prime Minister of Hungary, praised the
speech. Orban, had previously described Admiral Horthy, who presided over the
deportation of nearly half a million Hungarian Jews to Auschwitz, as an ‘exceptional
statesman’.
In The Independent, Orban’s state
secretary Zoltan Kovacs said:
We see Sir Keir
Starmer saying the exact sentences and words actually we’ve been talking about
for the past 10 years.
The fact that the Tory shadow justice secretary Robert Jenrick supported you should settle the matter.
Starvation
It was only after three months of a starvation
blockade of Gaza, when pictures of starving children like the emaciated Siwar Ashour began
to appear on TV channels, despite the best efforts of Tim Davie and the BBC's
bosses, that you and Lammy condemned Israel’s
starvation blockade.
Your words were a further example of your
hypocrisy. At the very same time as your fake outrage you are continuing to
supply Israel with weapons with which to kill the very children whose murder
you pretend to condemn. The RAF continues to overfly Gaza supplying the killers
with intelligence. Lying is the only thing you are good at.
You have refused to consider sanctions on Israel despite the call from 800+ lawyers, including former Supreme Court and Court of Appeal Judges to do so. You have repeatedly called for sanctions on Russia yet Russia hasn’t deliberately targeted children unlike Israel.
On the 27th anniversary of the genocide at Srebrenica, we remember the 8,000 Muslim men and boys who lost their lives and commend the dignity of those who survived.
— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) July 11, 2022
Likely raped to death.
— Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt (@FranceskAlbs) November 18, 2024
A doctor. A stellar surgeon. The embodiment of Palestinian ethics.
Likely raped to death.
The racism of Western media who are not covering this, and Western politicians who are not denouncing this, together with the thousand other testimonies and… pic.twitter.com/IRpCSi9nVZ
Christos Georgalas, a volunteer doctor in Gaza described how
the children he treated had cervical injuries of just a few millimeters yet
they had a very high speed of entry. He told how he saw in their neck a very
small hole, but making a CT scan he understood that their larynx, their wind,
the spine had dissolved. They're little volleys....
A fellow Spaniard told him that when
the Israelis had come to the hospital where the MRI scanner was, they were
trying to destroy everything. But the MRI is a huge machine. Even if you shoot
at it, it can be repaired. So they brought a special engineer to destroy it
permanently. A specialist had to come who understands the machine to make it
dysfunctional which is what happened last February.
Perhaps you can explain Starmer how
that is compatible with the Israeli lies that they only attack hospitals
because they are Hamas bases. Why would they want to destroy the medical
equipment?
Georgalas described how
In our hospital, the Israelis passed
through the chambers that were the incubators and systematically smashed them
one by one. These have been recorded by my colleagues. The hospital, where I
worked, was occupied by the Israelis for two months in February and March 2024.
Those doctors who had stayed in the hospital were tortured. They were put in
line one by one and beat them. They were kidnapped in total about 80. Of these,
40 do not know where they are or if they live. They killed a lot of people on
the spot.
What is stopping you immediately sanctioning Israel
and stopping the weapons supply other than the fact that your opposition to
what Israel is doing is about the optics rather than the reality of what they
are doing?
Business as Usual with Israel
By continuing to support Israel’s genocide Starmer
you are a war criminal who should finish his life in a prison cell in The
Hague, alongside Lammy and the other war criminals who chose to serve in your
Cabinet.
Tony Greenstein
Labour and NATO are entwined within the same imperialist machine. It was a Labour government under Clement Attlee that helped found NATO in 1949—an alliance explicitly designed to push back against the expansion of socialism from the Soviet Union and entrench American military presence in Europe. Since then, Labour has backed every imperialist war and never once questioned Britain’s role in NATO, not even under Corbyn, whose “anti-war” stance vanished the moment it challenged party unity.
ReplyDeleteIt follows that the trade unions tethered to Labour are just as complicit. The TUC supported NATO intervention in Yugoslavia and Libya, and today many unions pass motions backing Britain’s arming of Ukraine. Sharon Graham’s Unite has gone further. Calling for more military production under the guise of “defending jobs.” This isn’t defence; it’s war profiteering dressed up as workers’ rights.
The entire Labour-union-NATO axis is a betrayal of the working class. Their loyalty lies not with peace or safety of the workers as Stamer professes it to be, but with British imperialism and all its facets.
The two-state solution is based on an unquestioned, fundamental premise, that there can only be an abstract “yes” or an abstract “no” to a Palestinian state. However, the crucial question is in fact this: what concrete kind of Palestinian state would there be if it were to come into being?
ReplyDeleteOver the years, though changing in nuance, Israel’s historical position was never to refute a Palestinian state tout court. Rather, Israel’s objective position has always been to not necessarily want a Palestinian state—but if there were to be one, then it should not be an enemy state hellbent on Israel’s destruction (a doctrine that changed with the October 7 massacre).
Historically, however, the Palestinian leaders’ position (which differs only in the degree of directness with which Israel’s destruction is to be carried out) is at best the following: we don’t necessarily want a Palestinian state alongside Israel, but if there were to be one, then it would have to be an enemy state for Israel, capable of and hellbent on its destruction.
Palestinian leaders and their following have repeatedly responded to Israel’s peace offers with terrorism, because they were denied this condition—the Second Intifada was the answer to the Oslo peace process; October 7 was the answer to Israel’s complete withdrawal from Gaza. Both times they were confronted with the immediate possibility of realizing their demand for self-determination—the Oslo peace process was supposed to make the Palestinian state a reality, and Gaza was sovereignly ruled by Hamas, so that it was already a state-like entity. The reasoning from the point of view of the Palestinian leadership is the following: “We want our own state (or the demand for it) only as a means to destroy Israel. So we must implicitly reject our own statehood if it requires acceptance of Israel”. And this is precisely what Israel always rejected in turn: it did not want a Palestinian state if it meant its own (Israel’s) destruction. Israel would have only accepted a Palestinian state as a means of preserving its Jewish majority and achieving peace.
Walter Hundt
Walter Hundt is wrong. Israel has never accepted a two state solution. Netanyahu in particular has always rejected such a solution
DeleteWhy would any Jew accept their ancient ancestral land being partitioned ? Further, can you actually provide a more solid rebuttal ?
DeleteWalter Hundt
What Poland? Well it's been partitioned many times! Palestine isn't the 'ancient ancestral land' of Jews. Historically Jews wanted to go anywhere but Palestine/Israel and that has continued till today. When Soviet Jews wanted to emigrate t hey wanted to to the New Jerusalem, the United States not Israel. The Zionist movement waged a long battle to stop what they called the 'dropouts' choosing the US. Menachem Begin personally flew to see Ronald Reagan to get the US to stop admitting Russian Jews. The same happened when Germany did the same. The Foreign Minister David Halevy again petitioned the German PM, Kohl I believe.
DeleteIt is a racial myth that the anti-Semites propagated that Palestine/Israel is our ancient homeland. Jews belong where they live not in the mythical land of David and Solomon. Zionism was a Christian not a Jewish idea although there have been many false Messiahs.
Zionism has made the Jewish religion today into a religion of genocide
Why would Jews speak Hebrew if their actually Polish ?
Delete"It is a racial myth that the anti-Semites propagated that Palestine/Israel is our ancient homeland"
Source ?
Walter
Because a conscious decision Walter was taken by Ben Gurion and others to develop a new modern Hebrew Language so that the settlers could claim that they had nothing to do with the Diaspora. That was why Yiddish was virtually banned in Palestine and when the first play in Yiddish was put on in Tel Aviv there were thousands of demonstrators outside the theatre.
DeleteYou really do need to learn about the history of this racist settler movement that based itself on these racial myths and now calls for the extermination of the indigenous population.
Zionism is a fucking foul noxious movement that should be buried as quickly as possible. Israel is Hitler's bastard offspring.
Yiddish consisted of some Hebrew, a sign that the Jewish people are from Israel.
DeleteWalter
no Walter, the fact that Yiddish contained some Hebrew proved nothing. It was mainly German so that must mean they were mainly from Germany!!
DeleteThe Jewish religion centres on Jerusalem just like the Catholics centres on Rome. Shall we say that most Catholics come from Rome?
Good one, but as you know, Judaism, unlike Catholicism, is an ethnicity, not just a religion.
DeleteW
Nonsense. Judaism is a religion, it is the only thing that binds Jews who speak Chinese, Spanish, Arabic, English etc. together. Of course the Zionists claimed Jews were a nation. What they really meant was a race and we know where that leads
DeleteIf Judaism is "just a religion" why was there something called the Tsarist and Hapsburg edicts, that sought to make Jews take German names ?
DeleteWalter
I am tempted to say you should do your own thinking. Clearly there were some people who did not think of Jews as just a religion and the reason for that is that in feudal times Jews were a people class. Now back to Zionist studies
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