Demonstrators in Brighton and Hove see off an assortment of racists and fascists led by the King of Conspiracy Theorist, Piers Corbyn
Bigots & Piers Corbyn Demonstrate Against Drag Queens Reading Stories to Children
There was a demonstration by hundreds of people on Thursday
at Brighton’s Jubilee Library against an assortment of fascists, cranks and conspiracy
theorists who were attempting to prevent drag queen Aida H Dee from reading
stories to children.
They were led by Piers Corbyn who seems to take pride in his idiocy.
Leading chants of ‘your parents were
straight’ and speaking of the New World Order it is clear that Corbyn has become
gripped by a pathology that prevents all rational thought.
The pervasive idea that gripped the counter demonstrators was
that by being read stories by a drag queen the ‘innocence’ of young children
was being compromised and that they were being groomed.
Hove Bigots Demonstrate
These people have a fear of any sexuality which isn’t
straight and believe that by coming into contact with those who are gay or
transgender children will be contaminated and converted. Simply as a matter of
fact children are sexual beings. They are inquisitive about their own bodies
and that of other children. They will often play ‘doctor’ and play with
themselves. That is a normal part of
growing up. For fascists and racists, children are innocent until they
reach puberty. See Child sexuality.
The idea that children might experiment with different gender
roles is a threat to those who cannot envisage anything other than male and
female stereotypes. Anyone who has actually had children knows that they like
to experiment in for example dressing up as the other sex or playing different
roles. But for the fascists and the assorted
nutcases who gathered in Brighton and Hove this is a threat, not least to their
own identity.
Not all those who demonstrated in Brighton and Hove were
fascists but a good proportion were. I received an email a week ago from the
outright neo-Nazi Patriotic Alternative boasting
that
‘Patriotic Alternative has led the
charge to oppose this clear attempt to introduce children to sexualised
material.’
We were accused by them
of being paedophiles (a favourite accusation of neo-Nazis), grooming children and
we were otherwise subject to abuse from these low lives. The irony is that it
is the far right which has always contained within it numerous child abusers and
paedophiles.
Hove Paedophile Woman
This
should be no surprise since authoritarian political movements are a magnet for
those who want to dominate others, including children. It is the Right and
far-Right which have always supported beating children. Of course that was for their
own good! Nothing to do with child abuse or their own sexual proclivities.
The woman in the video
who accused us of paedophilia, was repeating a standard fascist trope belies
the evidence. Below are a few examples.
Child abuse, paedophilia and the far-right
Despite
his claim to campaign against child abuse, no one has been friendlier to
paedophiles and child abusers than Tommy Robinson. Robinson has repeatedly equated
Muslims with child abuse yet the statistics are quite clear. The actual
data shows that the ethnic origins of those convicted of sexual contact
with children are pretty much the same as the ethnic mix of the UK.
What is
clear though is that fascists and neo-Nazis are over represented amongst those
who are convicted. Below are a few examples:
1.
In 2010 Tommy Robinsons friend Richard Price was convicted
of making 4 indecent images of children. Far from condemning Price a campaign
was launched by the EDL for his release. Robinson wholeheartedly
supported Price, claiming he had been “stitched
up” and that “Price has no idea how
they were on his computer.”
Since its formation, there have been at least 20
members and supporters of the EDL convicted of child sexual exploitation
offences. At least 10 of these were active while Robinson was still leading it.
2.
The most shocking case was that of Robert Ewing, who murdered
schoolgirl Paige Chivers. He was later prosecuted for abusing
two other children.
3.
Leigh Mcmillan, a senior EDL figure was sentenced to
17 years after abusing
a 10 year-old schoolgirl 100 times in the mid-1990s.
4.
In 2010, EDL supporter Brett Moses was given a
12-month suspended prison sentence after pleading guilty to sexual
grooming.
5.
In 2011 John Broomfield, an active EDL supporter, admitted
20 counts of making indecent images of children. The police found 236 indecent
images depicting children and babies on his computers.
6.
Also in 2011, Michael Coates was charged with a series
of sex offences, including two attempted rapes. He was active
in the EDL splinter group the North West Infidels.
7.
In 2011, a gang of racists attacked Redbridge Islamic
Centre. Elliot Jones, one of the attackers on that day, was convicted
of trying to incite a child into sexual activity.
8.
Mark “Archie” Sleman was an EDL supporter who was active
in London and Exeter. He was imprisoned
for nine years in 1994 for the kidnap and rape of a ten-year-old girl.
9.
In 2012 EDL member Matthew Woodward was charged
with possession of images of children as young as 10.
10.
Michael Kinnear, who was active in the EDL was gaoled
in 2015 after police found images on his mobile of a primary school aged girl
“performing a type of striptease” and in a state of undress.
11. 47 year old Paul Whiteside was given a 10-month jail sentence suspended for two years for abducting a school girl. Whiteside had previously campaigned against ‘Muslim grooming of young girls in Lincolnshire.’
12.
Other EDL child abusers and sex offenders include Bradley
Daniel Alford, Alan
Boulter, Pete
Gillett, Luke
Atkinson, Dean
Chambers and Bruce
Cordwell amongst many others.
13. More recently, Robinson once again found himself allied with a sex offender. In June 2017, he shared a stage with William Charlton at a rally in Sunderland at an event where the sexual abuse of children was the key theme of the speeches. It later transpired that Charlton was found guilty of distributing an indecent photograph of a child.
Great analysis Tony. Thank you for the part you played in protecting parents & children trying to enter the library......not usually considered a high risk activity!!! Keep up the good work comrade!!
ReplyDeleteAn interesting and disturbing article. Piers Corbyn has had a long association with right wing libertarian individuals and think tanks, particularly when it comes to climate change, the first recorded such event he appeared at being in 1995 (https://www.desmog.com/piers-corbyn/), so perhaps his hobnobbing with neo-fascists here is no surprise.
ReplyDeleteIt's good that you acknowledge the danger that gender-critical feminism might fall into this trap as well, but my feeling is that this would not be some political aberration, but is the result of this strand of feminism depending on a series of non-arguments. First is a distortion of the legal implications of self-recognition (see https://ohrh.law.ox.ac.uk/gender-recognition-self-determination-and-segregated-space/).
Secondly, is the reduction of trans issues to matters of sexuality. Here, I think, you make a mistake in your mention of child sexuality in not making a distinction between adolescent and pre-adolescent stages, when clearly a huge change takes place with the onset of puberty. My understanding is that most trans people start to experience gender dysphoria well before puberty, which means it is not something provoked by the sexual feelings that accompany puberty. Saying that trans people are motivated by how they want to express their adult sexuality seems to me to invite arguments that they are some kind of "sexual deviant" and this is reinforced by all the talk about invasion of women's spaces, which I think is central to the arguments of Women's Place UK (for example). So I am not surprised that some of them will gravitate to the far-right, as that is where a lot of these arguments are now expressed most strongly.
Finally, is the argument about sex and gender. This is complex, but it has to be acknowledged that sex is not as easy to define biologically as most people think (genitalia/DNA). The trouble that Caster Semenya has had illustrates that. Those who are interested can read about the biological/social aspects in the following articles:
https://www.nature.com/articles/518288a
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-07238-8
"The idea that children might experiment with different gender roles is a threat to those who cannot envisage anything other than male and female stereotypes."
ReplyDeleteThere is no such thing as "transgender children". Trans is an adult concept.
The entire edifice of transgender ideology is built on and dependent on maintaining sex-based stereotypes, without which "transition" (eg a man "living" as a woman) would be impossible.
What is the difference between "Womanface" and "blackface"?
The left's myopic adherence to regressive, misogynist trans activist misappropriation of women's existence, spaces and services has left the field of objection wide open to exploitation by the far right.
We reap what we sow.
I'm not saying there is such a thing as trans gender children. I think you are over egging the pudding when you say the 'entire edifice'. That assumes that there is no such thing as gender dysphoria.
Deletecertainly transgender ideology makes assumptions about sex-based stereotypes but then we all live within the confines of such stereotypes whether we like it or not.
There is a vast difference between what you term 'woman face' and 'black face'. The latter came from the legacy of lynching and slavery. Men dressing up as women has a long history in theatre going back to Shakespeare and the Globe and is entirely different. I'm not justifying it but it is not the same phenomenon.
I've made my own views about the idea that a man can simply proclaim himself to be a woman. But I don't accept that all trans women are simply misognysts. Some are but not all by any means.
If the far-Right exploits these issues then it is feminists duty to dissociate themselves from those who are no friends of women, gay or transgender people.
Tony- you are correct to describe parallels and contradictions between the far right and so-called "gender critical feminists". There are both parallels and contradictions. Neither, it would appear, are happy about drag queens reading stories to children. However, gender critical and material feminists will call out the homophobia of both the far right and transgender ideology, with the latter refusing to accept sexual preferences, arguing that there are only gender preferences (such that a man identifying a woman and wanting to date women is a lesbian).You might want also to call out this contradiction. Furthermore, it might not have escaped your notice that misogynistic men on the left take great pleasure in having an excuse to denigrate and silence "bolshie" women with whom they disagree, with material and gender critical feminists being a prime target.
ReplyDeleteIn Bristol last week, there were two groups of protesters outside the Henleaze Library. Notably, Antifa was there in black clothes, black masks and, curiously, with trans flags, shouting out trans slogans. Now, there is no reason to believe that drag queens are always transgender- unless you adopt the very wide definition of "trans" adopted by Stonewall, where the trans umbrella includes transvestites and gender non-conforming people (the latter would probably make me trans). Whatever, it was inappropriate for the Antifa protesters, in their black and masks to be shouting in front of a library. Incidentally, the anti-drag queen protesters were all in ordinary clothes with hand-made posters and no flags.
Finally, I am surprised you do not see the "black-face" "woman-face" parallel. Drag queens portray a highly sexualised, parody version of womanhood, with extreme make-up and wigs. I don't see how anyone on the left should find it remotely funny or OK.
Dear Esther,
DeleteI think it is a principle that socialists and feminists should never been seen on the same side as fascists, racists and homophobes.
I don't accept that there is an equivalent between 'black face' and what you call 'woman face'. The former were a product of slavery and lynching. The portrayal of Black people as children. Drag queens as in Pantomime Dames are not the same and you know it.
I really don't believe that you should have been protesting alongside the bigots. This reading of children's story by an autistic drag queen was nothing to be concerned about.
The 'concerns' of protesters about the children was hypocritical. They were taken there by their parents. The reading was not sexual.
The reader was the equivalent of a pantomime dame, nothing more. Do you protest against the annual pantomime which children love so much?
The fascists and bigots in Brighton called us 'paedophiles'. That is what they called gay people remember? I accept what you say about drag queens not necessarily being transgender.
I don't accept your strictures about the Antifa protesters. Where there are fascists there should be an anti-fascist presence. I'm sorry you weren't with them.
I wasn’t protesting on either side, Tony. I’d never take the side of fascists. As far as I know, there weren’t fascists at the Bristol protests, although the Antifa protesters did a good job of intimidating people. I don’t accept that drag queens are harmless comedy in the style of pantomime dames. They come from a completely different place. And as for the autistic young man in Brighton, it is quite possible that he is vulnerable and being used for ideological purposes. I’d like to know why the Bristol antifa protesters deliberately and completely conflated drag with trans. Do you have any idea why they did this? Finally, you will know that the far right and feminists come from a completely different place on drag. The far right protest it because they want to maintain stereotypes (“men shouldn’t dress like that”). Feminists protest it because they reject misogynistic stereotypes (“women don’t dress like that”).
DeleteI assume that this is Esther replying! Regardless I understand why gender critical feminists may have problems with drag queens though they too come in different shapes and sizes. However this particular event seemed entirely innocuous in terms of imposing a gender stereotype or ideology on the children.
DeleteHowever we must never ever be seen to be on the side of those who would remove the rights of all women, gay and trans people. They are our enemy.
yes this was I
DeleteAnd do you know why the pro-drag protesters were flying trans flags (the Antifa protesters in Bristol were flying only trans flags, and I can see that there were trans flags at the Brighton protest)?
DeleteEsther, I'm not sure what a 'trans flag' is. But I assume the reason is because the right-wing protestors were equating the drag queen with being trans.
DeleteThe pro-drag protesters were using the trans flag. Why?
DeleteDoesn`t Tony Greenstein believe in the Innocence of Children and how Impressionable they are. They Love their Mom and Dad. Why Confuse them with all the Gender Bender Variations.If they are allowed to live their lives without Indoctrination, they will make up their Own Minds up about their Sexuality.
ReplyDeleteYou are naive if you think children are innocent! They are highly inquisitive as you would know if you'd had children.
DeleteThere was nothing in the reading of a few stories to children by a drag queen that compromised either their 'innocence' or their love for mum and dad (this assumes that parents aren't often their main abusers).
There was nothing sexual in the readings and the children concerned were taken to the readings by their parents. Bigots like you would no doubt ban the pantomime dame too.
One of my sons loved dressing up as a witch and wearing girls' clothes. Thats quite normal as are girls who are tom boys.
You labour under the impression that watching some who is a drag queen will compromise their sexuality. I doubt it and you are confusing transgender people with sexuality which is a different thing anyway
Dear oh Dear! Don't be so po-faced Tony and 'befriend' Piers back on social media. We all know Piers Corbyn is a harmless eccentric campaigner of and about allsorts of issues who means no malice to anyone. Who takes notice of him anyway?
ReplyDeleteSlightly off-topic, although not completely unrelated - what do you think of the contrarian/post-left, and anti-woke/anti-identity politics left ?
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