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Friday, 20 August 2010

More Attacks on Freedom of Speech for anti-Zionists and Dissenters

Jonathan Hoffman Threatens to Sue Tony Greenstein for Reporting the Zionist-EDL Connection
According to his comment unless I take the story down about the joint demonstration between EDL and the Zionist Federation, of which he is the co-chair, Jonathan Hoffman's lawyers will be talking to me from 8 am on Monday!

Bit early I thought for a chat, but I suspect it isn’t about an invitation to breakfast. It would appear that JH doesn’t like the truth. The photograph clearly shows him and Roberta Moore demonstrating together and no attempt was made by the ZF to dissociate themselves from the EDL.

But what Hoffman is trying to obscure is the fact that the EDL support Zionist counter-demonstrations in support of the murders on the Mavi Marmara and selling stolen goods in Ahava shop? What is this pole of attraction between the BNP, EDL and most of Europe’s far right and Zionism? Could it be joint hatred of Muslims?

Well the fascists are in no doubt about the matter. Only Israel deals with Muslims as they ought to be dealt with, which is why the BNP supported the 2006 attack on Lebanon and the 2008/9 attack on Gaza.

As Lee Barnes, their legal advisor stated on 28th July 2006,
As a Nationalist I can say that I support Israel 100 % in their dispute with Hezbollah. In fact, I hope they wipe Hezbollah off the Lebanese map and bomb them until they leave large greasy craters in the cities where their Islamic extremist cantons of terror once stood. [accessed 20.8.10.]
Even the staid old Jewish Chronicle recently had a post entitled 'BNP praises Israel minister on foreigners' on November 5, 2009 reporting that 'the British National Party has leapt on comments by Israel’s Interior Minister, Eli Yishai, to suggest that the extreme-right party shares a common immigration policy with Israel.'

And what were these comments? According to Israel's 'Justice' Minister, Eli Yishai:
"If hundreds of thousands of migrant workers come here now, they will bring with them a profusion of diseases: hepatitis, measles, tuberculosis, AIDS and drug [addiction]"
Strange that. It was what anti-Semites and of course the Nazis used to say about the Jews. The target has changed but the ideas remain the same and once again the Zionists are happy for them to oblige.

And why shouldn't they love Israel? It was only a couple of weeks ago that Benjamin Netanyahu explained, in response to those poor sentimental souls in Israel who didn't want the children of migrant labourers to be deported, that the decision was
'"influenced by two primary considerations - the humanitarian consideration and the Zionist consideration. We're looking for a way to absorb and adopt to our hearts children who were brought up and raised here as Israelis. On the other hand, we don't want to create an incentive that will lead to hundreds of thousands of illegal migrant workers flooding the country," Ha'aretz 1.8.10.
Translation of this means that the Zionist and the humanitarian considerations were opposed. Zionist considerations mean a Jewish State i.e. as few as possible non-Jewish children and certainly no more. No wonder the BNP just love Zionism and Israel!

As Ruth Smeed for the Board of Deputies of British Jews explained, in the Guardian of 10th April 2009:
"The BNP website is now one of the most Zionist on the web - it goes further than any of the mainstream parties in its support of Israel and at the same time demonises Islam and the Muslim world
Since I shall not be retracting a word that I wrote I expect m’learned friends to be hauling me off in front of an Old Bailey jury. As I’m not an investment banker/ economist like Jonathan Hoffman, I shall undoubtedly be defending myself when this eventually comes to court.

Brighton Council Considers Appeal Against Magistrates Decision that Campaign Stalls can Have a Collection Box

And further to the Zionists’ use of the libel courts to prevent freedom of expression, we have news that Brighton Council is considering an appeal against my acquittal by Brighton Magistrates of making an illegal collection on behalf of Brighton Palestine Solidarity Campaign. Somewhat ironically The Argus, which didn’t report the original trial has reported the Council’s reaction!

Judging by reaction from people in other places, it would seem that Sussex Police are not unique in harassing activists. I spoke to someone last night from an animal rights group in Southampton which is being harassed by the police for similar reasons. Of course they wouldn’t be doing this to groups they have no quarrel with, so it is another example of the selective use of laws to harass peaceful protest and the dissemination of information in a democratic society.

Our argument was and is that this is a breach of Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights, i.e. freedom of expression.

It appears I’m going to be busy in the Courts next year!

I will be away for a week starting Saturday so this blog may not be updated given I don’t know how often I shall have Internet access.

Tony Greenstein

18 comments:

Deborah Fink said...

That's not very nice of Hoffie when you stuck up for him in the JC,which he appreciated at the time-he asked me to thank you for him.

But I wouldn't worry- not that you are. In this week's JC, he was quoted as saying that Israel acted completely legally in the Hove and Ahava cases, which shows how little he knows about the law. (In other words he thinks it's legal to bomb civilians in Gaza who have nowhere to go....and legal to occupy the West Bank, steal its resources and label settlement goods as Israeli).

I guess that Hoffman is under pressure from other members of the ZF. He looked perfectly happy demonstrating with them and made no attempt to remove them or have them put in a separate area. Furthermore, he has not once spoken out against them.

Bhanu Tiwari said...

The moment I saw the unbelievable The End Of Nations article on Hubpages I decided that Tony Greenstein's blog commentators totally should be able to express their opinions on this! http://hubpages.com/hub/Global-Union-The-End-Of-Nations

Asa said...

Jonathan Hoffman: a complete laughing stock everywhere he goes.

Keep digging yourself in deeper Hoffman, you're only helping us.

Anonymous said...

Tony you are a boring old f*rt

Get a life - and stop the lies about me

JH

Anonymous said...

"Jonathan Hoffman of the Zionist Federation and the EDL’s Roberta Moore Hold a Joint Demonstration"

Please prove that there was active collusion between the ZF and the EDL before the demo to 'hold a joint demonstration'

If you can't - then change the headline

You and your muckraking Trot cronies just want to make trouble. No-one takes you seriously. Wintness the lack of coverage of this in MSM with the exception of one completely anodyne piece in the Grauniad - even they could not make something of this crap.

You and your pathetic Trot friends are in a sewer of lies and personal vilification. Thank G-d you are just a tiny fringe whom no-one outside your little cell takes seriously.

JH

Anonymous said...

as for 'attacks on freedom of speech' - what a joke

what was NUJ and the others doing outside the BBC yesterday if not attacking Jane Corbin's freedom of speech on Panorama?

hypocritical moron

JH

Tony Greenstein said...

methinks Hoffman is a might annoyed: he knows I wont back down: hence the 'moron' etc comments when any reasonable person would say that its Hoffman zho fits his own description best:

I doubt if; even under Hoffman's lunatic reign at the ZF that they planned the counter demo in advance, though I wouldn't rule it out either. But they demonstrated together - that to me is a joint demonstration:

Anonymous said...

You are virtually cyber-stalking me Tony.

Along with the inane comments above by Fink and "Asa" (an anonymous coward), I take this as confirmation that I am effective.

JH

Lobby ludd said...

Jonathan Hoffman:

"Please prove that there was active collusion between the ZF and the EDL before the demo to 'hold a joint demonstration'"

Is that necessary, Jonathan? Isn't it more to do with whom you are happy to have along?

Surely the politically unstable football crews are not people you want anywhere near you?

Gert said...

Tony:

Over at Richard Millett's I know of two Israeli Zionists (one from Ma'ale Adumim - lol) who fully support the BZF's collusion with the EDL. Despite another Zionist's desperately trying to talk the settler (Daniel Marks - settler from Ma'ale Adumim from Albion) out of this idiocy, Danny wants to have none of it: Muslims are the common enemy and so why shouldn't the Zios and Islamophobes stand together, huh? And why indeed not?

Deborah Fink said...

Poor old Hoffie can't argue his case so he's regressed to name-calling, like an inarticulate, frustrated child....

O, and, I'm a friend of Tony's but I'm not a Trot...You don't have to be a socialist or communist (neither of which I am) to want justice for Palestinians.

Btw, I thought Hoff looked slimmer at the last demo- maybe it's the stress of trying to defend the indefensible and fighting a lost cause...

Jemmy Hope said...

So did the meeting take place? Anything to declare? Is that really J. Hoffman commenting? Sounds a little unbalanced.

Anonymous said...

Have you seen that the Zionist clown Jonathan Hoffman has had to issue a grovelling apology on the JC's blog. I believe m'learned friends were involved


http://www.thejc.com/node/37188


On my Jewish Chronicle blog I described a photograph taken on 14 August
2010 at the pro-Ahava demonstration as "fraudulent". I also wrote "That
photo was 'Photoshopped' -- and it is bloody obvious that it was
'Photoshopped' I do not discuss but I do identify lies and fraudulent
Photoshopped photos."

These statements were entirely without foundation and I had made no
attempt to check their accuracy. I accept that the photo was absolutely
genuine and had not been tampered with in any way. The photographer,
David Hoffman, is a well known and respected photojournalist and I
apologise to him unreservedly for my hasty and unfounded comments and
for the distress and embarrassment caused.

Levi9909 said...

Methinks Hoffman doth protest too much. He apologised in his JC blog yesterday:


http://www.thejc.com/node/37188

By Jonathan Hoffman
August 24, 2010


On my Jewish Chronicle blog I described a photograph taken on 14 August 2010 at the pro-Ahava demonstration as "fraudulent". I also wrote "That photo was 'Photoshopped' -- and it is bloody obvious that it was 'Photoshopped' I do not discuss but I do identify lies and fraudulent Photoshopped photos."

These statements were entirely without foundation and I had made no attempt to check their accuracy. I accept that the photo was absolutely genuine and had not been tampered with in any way. The photographer, David Hoffman, is a well known and respected photojournalist and I apologise to him unreservedly for my hasty and unfounded comments and for the distress and embarrassment caused.

Anonymous said...

If the Zionists think the far right consider Jewish people anything more than vermin then they are seriously deluded. As long as they are not the ones currently under persecution they do not seem to care, but the hatred that lead to the Holocaust still burns and any Zionists who think that the far right's support of Israel is anything other than a present convenience will be proved wrong. I hope they will wake up before it is too late and it is they once again who are being hunted.

Tony Greenstein said...

I've been away all this week so I'm only just catching up with things. I haven't yet received a write from Hoffman's lawyer!

What I do know is that Hoffman has been forced to publish a humiliating apology on his Jewish Chronicle blog to his namesake, photographer David Hoffman, for suggesting that the photograph of him and Roberta Moore demonstrating together was a 'photoshop job' etc. etc.

Once again Hoffman has been caught out as a liar.

He also seems to be slightly (no I'll change that to very) mad. I am supposed to be cyberstalking him yet I haven't ever, as far as I can recall, posted on his blog or it's a long time ago if I have. Hoffman J regularly posts here and I usually let his comments through on the basis that if you give someone enough rope....

So how can I cyberstalk someone who posts on my blog? Maybe someone with a more erudite grasp of dialectics will help me.

Asa said...

Yes: I'm so "anonymous" that I added my website address to my comment. Once again Hoffman shows scant regard for any semblance of fact.

joe90 kane said...

If Jonathan Have-fun is anything to go by, the recruitment process at the ZF is a pretty zany affair.

Are you as mad as a hatter and as useful as a chocolate teapot?

If you can answer yes to these questions then you obviously don't understand them which means you've got the job Jona-fun.

Welcome to our zionist lunatic asylum. Say hello to fellow inmates Toube, Prosser and Phillips.

The ZF expects you to begin lying on Monday and we expect the first libellious statement by you by Tuesday, and the BBC to believe and report your unsubstantiated paranoid antisemitic smears by Wednesday. Thursday, bully and humiliate a Holocaust survivor in public the same way they used to do to Jews in Nazi Vienna. Friday, the Muslim Sabbath, slag off Muslims and Islam. Saturday, forget it's the Jewish Sabbath and go out with your swastika-loving EDL mates. Sunday, we leave to your imaginative talent for creative self-harm and self-destruction.

And Goodnight Vienna.