Primal Scream’s Bobby Gillespie:
“the whole thing is set up to normalise the State of Israel & its disgraceful treatment of the Palestinian people."
For
some reason, which BBC2 Executives will no doubt rue, BBC Newsnight decided to
interview Primal Scream’s Bobby Gillespie tonight and to ask him about Madonna’s
decision to perform during the Eurovision Song Contest in Tel Aviv this weekend.
Speaking
to Newsnight ahead of the release of a new greatest hits album, the rock band's
lead singer called Madonna a “total
prostitute” adding, “I’ve nothing against prostitutes.... Primal Scream would never perform in
Israel".
“It’s set up to normalise the State of
Israel and its disgraceful treatment of the Palestinian people. By going to
perform in Israel I think what you do is you normalise that,"
Earlier
this week, Madonna said: “I’ll never stop
playing music to suit someone’s political agenda nor will I stop speaking out
against violations of human rights wherever in the world they may be.” So if the political agenda is Israel’s
violation of human rights then Madonna would prefer to take the money than not
play!
Gillespie’s
answers are precisely the way to deal with the Zionist trope about the ‘right
to exist’ of the Israeli state. When I was asked that question on BBC Big
Questions some years ago I responded by saying that no state has the right to
exist. A state is not a person and only a fascist equates a state with the
people living in it.
Even
better was when Bobby Gillespie was told by Kirsty Wark that he would be seen
as ‘anti-Semitic’. His response? ‘All my
heroes are Jews – Karl Marx, Bob Dylan and the Marx Brothers.’ Which left Kirsty Wark speechless. I haven’t
shown the pathetic declaration of Madonna at the beginning of the week talking
about this ‘ancient conflict’. The
conflict goes back to 1917 and the Balfour Declaration. Which isn’t all that
ancient!
Tony
Greenstein
Kirsty Wark: ‘Eurovision
song contest in Tel Aviv. Madonna’s going to play.’
Bobby Gillespie ‘Well
Madonna will do anything for money. She is a total prostitute. I’ve nothing
against prostitutes. It’s set up to normalise the State of Israel and its
disgraceful treatment of the Palestinian people. By going to perform in Israel
what you do is normalise that. So Primal Scream would never perform in Israel.
I think Madonna is just desperate for publicity and desperate for the money
because she’ll be getting... they pay very very well.
Kirsty Wark: This
gets into difficult territory because you believe in the State of Israel’s
right to exist? Because this is what the big argument is.
Bobby Gillespie: I believe in the rights of the Palestinian
people.
Kirsty Wark: And the rights of the Israelis?
Bobby Gillespie: Stolen land
Kirsty Wark: I
have to just ask this one question which is, if you don’t believe in the right
of the State of Israel to exist you understand why you are then seen as
anti-Semitic?
Bobby Gillespie: I’m
not anti-Semitic at all. All my heroes
are Jews. Karl Marx, Bob Dylan, Marx Brothers
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