6 October 2024

Arrested for Saying that Israel is Doing What the Nazis Did - It is NOT the Job of the Police to Control Free Speech

The Irony of the Institutionally Racist Metropolitan Police Telling Anti-Zionist Jews What They Can and Cannot Say is Like Harold Shipman Lecturing on Medical Ethics





Last Friday four Jewish people – Haim Bresheeth, an anti-Zionist Israeli, Jackie Walker, who was expelled as a result of the fake ‘anti-Semitism’ in Corbyn’s Labour Party, Stephen Kapos – a child survivor of the Hungarian holocaust and myself addressed about 100 people demonstrating outside the residence of Israel Ambassador, Tzipi Hotoveli.


Hotoveli Opens Book with Blank Pages

Hotoveli is a notorious racist who described the Nakba as an ‘Arab lie’ despite it being copiously documented. The fact that Israel not only won’t open its archives on the Nakba but is busying trying to hide those documents that have been revealed, demonstrates that it has something to hide.

Hotoveli once presented a book with no pages to the Knesset opening it to declare that this was the sum total of Palestinian history.’You are thieves of history’ which was rich coming from a thieving Zionist colonist. The fact that this racist nutcase was welcomed to the Labour Party conference says everything about the moral vacuum at the heart of Starmer’s so-called Labour Party.

I was the last of the 4 speakers. I made it clear that the genocide and ethnic cleansing, the bombing of hospitals, universities, schools, tent encampments as well as the starvation blockade reminded me of nothing so much as the behaviour of Nazi Germany. I could have added that it bore a distinct resemblance to the behaviour of the British Empire in India, Kenya and many other of our colonies but since Israel claims to inherit the memory of the Jewish holocaust dead it was appropriate to confine my remarks to the holocaust.

I also repeated the phrase that I had used at the Palestine Expo five years ago, which the Jewish Chronicle had highlighted, namely that Today most people with a streak of moral fibre would agree that I was prescient. Not so the Police. They were on the look out for any speech that their political masters considered ‘anti-Semitic’ using the bogus IHRA definition of anti-Semitism which gives as an illustration of ‘anti-Semitism’ ‘Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis’.

In its opening sentence the ‘definition’ describes itself as a ‘non-legally binding working definition of antisemitism’ but in practice the Police and other State bodies, including universities, have adopted it as if it were a legal  code. This is not the place to dissect the IHRA, whose only purpose is to defend a racist genocidal state, as its critics are numerous. Academically and intellectually it is indefensible and even Zionists like Professor Geoffrey Alderman and David Feldman have criticised it as flawed,  faulty and bewilderingly imprecise.

I was arrested under Section 5 of the Public Order Act

The fact is that the IHRA’s basic message is that all except anodyne criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic and that is enough for Sir Mark Rowley’s none too bright thought police.  As Sir Stephen Sedley, a Jewish former Court of Appeal judge wrote in Defining Anti-Semitism (LRB, May 2017)

Endeavours to conflate the two [Zionism and anti-Semitism] by characterising everything other than anodyne criticism of Israel as anti-Semitic are not new.

Sedley also wrote that the IHRA ‘fails the first test of any definition: it is indefinite’. However the Metropolitan Police are better known for their corruption and thuggery than any intellectual achievements.

The irony is that I was arrested on the 88th anniversary of the Battle of Cable Street when the Met did their best to batter their way through the Jewish East End of London in order that Oswald Moseley’s British Union of Fascists and National Socialists (they changed their name to add the last 3 words in 1936) could march and intimidate working class Jews.

When anti-Semitism was a real force to be reckoned with in society, no group was more sympathetic to the fascists than the Metropolitan Police who had many BUF sympathisers in them. Now that anti-Semitism has been redefined as support for the Palestinians and opposition to Zionism, which is the adopted policy of the British government, the Met is now against it!

As Jews have moved to the right and become both more prosperous and an alibi for British support for Israel, the Met has combined philo Semitism with Islamaphobia and anti-Black racism. Their racism hasn’t gone away it has simply been transferred to others.

At the end of my speech I was informed by others that the Met, who were surrounding the demonstration, were pointing at me and sure enough, as the demonstration dispersed I was asked to accompany plod. Now for the sake of fairness I should add that the Police were perfectly polite and I accept that they were doing what the Mark Rowley’s and Keir Starmers of this world were instructing them to do which was to clamp down on pro-Palestinian and anti-Zionist speech.

I was arrested and taken to Holborn Police station where I was held for 7 hours before being released early in the morning. I was interviewed for nearly an hour by two cops who clearly didn’t have a clue what they were talking about. I decided to dispense with a solicitor since there was nothing they could have done and since I don’t agree with blanket ‘no comment’ interviews, which tend to suggest that you have something to hide, I was happy to take them on.

I was bailed with two conditions:

Not to come to Camden and not to attend pro-Palestinian protests in London. As far as I am concerned the latter is unlawful and I will be seeking to have this removed at the first opportunity. Article 10 of the European Convention of Human Rights is quite clear. Even the most stupid politician and policeman should be able to get their heads around it:

During my interview I referenced the 1999 case of Redmond-Bate v DPP where the said LJ Sedley ruled that ‘“Freedom only to speak inoffensively is not worth having.” It’s something that the Zionists and their claque of supporters don’t want to understand. Nor did the police who interview me understand what I was getting at. Policemen rarely do understand such concepts.

“Free speech includes not only the inoffensive but the irritating, the contentious, the eccentric, the heretical, the unwelcome and the provocative provided it does not tend to provoke violence. Freedom only to speak inoffensively is not worth having. What Speakers’ Corner (where the law applies as fully as anywhere else) demonstrates is the tolerance which is both extended by the law to opinion of every kind and expected by the law in the conduct of those who disagree, even strongly, with what they hear. From the condemnation of Socrates to the persecution of modern writers and journalists, our world has seen too many examples of state control of unofficial ideas. A central purpose of the European Convention on Human Rights has been to set close limits to any such assumed power. We in this country continue to owe a debt to the jury which in 1670 refused to convict the Quakers William Penn and William Mead for preaching ideas which offended against state orthodoxy.”

Comparing Israel and its genocidal racism to Nazi Germany is something many Israelis have done. Ze’ev Sternhell, a former professor at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem and a child survivor of the holocaust, wrote an article In Israel, Growing Fascism and a Racism Akin to Early Nazism. One suspects that the idiots who arrested me would have arrested Sternhell too.

Hannah Arendt's Eichmann in Jerusalem p.7

Hannah Arendt, who was a refugee from Nazi Germany and the greatest political scientist of the last century noted in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem that the attacks at the Eichmann trial on the Nuremberg Laws for banning marriage between Jews and non-Jews was somewhat ironic since Israel also banned them!

The fact is that the very racial supremacism that the Nazis promoted is alive and well in Israel. The Police are there to uphold the existing inequalities of society in the name of ‘the rule of law’. They are not paid to think and very few of them do think outside narrow parameters.

That is why the Metropolitan and other police forces are regularly found to be full of narrow minded bigots such as the officers at Charing Cross Station whose WhatsApp messages finally did for the Metropolitan Police Commissioner and Bigot, Cressida Dick.

As far as I’m concerned the bail conditions are unlawful and have nothing to do with repeating an offence that did not occur so I do not feel bound by them. I will be pleading not guilty and seeking to bring a number of witnesses if the Crown Prosecution Service is stupid enough to charge me.

In the event that the CPS does not bring charges then I will sue the police for false and malicious imprisonment since I spent approximately 7 hours in custody besides incurring other expenses. The only way to punish the police for their dictatorial behaviour is to hit them in the pocket although, since they can draw on unlimited public money, one suspects that they will not reform.

What happened is that arch-Zionist agitator and thug Richard Millett, who sued Jeremy Corbyn and then backed off, made a malicious complaint to the Police. The Police as is always the case bend over backwards to appease these racists.

That is why I am setting up a Crowdfunder in order that I can fund both future civil litigation and also take legal advice about the present charges (since I am not entitled to legal aid until charges have been laid).

I would therefore ask those of you who are able to contribute to do so. My Crowdfunder ‘Stopping the Police Persecuting Palestine Solidarity Activists’ is now live.

Tony Greenstein

22 comments:

  1. Thanks for this informative post Tony, and it would be useful if you could do one about the ihra definition of antisemitism, if you haven't already.
    As for Labour, the problems the party, not Sir Keir, even though he's awful too. Labours irredeemable.
    The police and army are probably heavily indoctrinated to hate the working class and non Europeans, so their behaviour is all to be expected, although there might be some individual more polite and respectful officers.

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  2. yes I intend to do a post in the near future about the IHRA

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    1. That would be useful, especially in light of the stuff going on in the US with some Zionist groups apparently trying to use some civil rights laws against pro-Palestinians - there's more on it over at Mondoweiss. One poster even claims that pro-Palestinians are threatening to Jews and asserts there have been swashst ickers painted on some college dormitory, but can't provide evidence of it or that it's linked to Palestine. The firebombing attack in France also seems a bit dubious - why would a pro-Palestinian do something that could harm the cause, and would they really be so obvious by wearing a kuffiya and Palestinian flag, plus, apparently the car the attacker went for had a can of gasoline in it, which seems a bit convenient.

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  3. Commiserations Tony. I'm sure you feel really bad about making zionists feel uncomfortable.

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    1. Yes it keeps me up at night thinking about the Zionists who have felt slighted by what I said!

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  4. Tony, thank for walking the ground that others fear to tread. All movements against persecution and injustice were spearheaded by brave individuals who stood firm in the face of overwhelming power and persecution. Thankfully there are still those who put their own liberty at jeopardy to give voice to the cries of mothers and fathers in Palestine and Lebanon weeping over the broken corpse of their children. Solidarity brother.

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  5. I respect you Tony for voicing your condemnation of Zionist immorality and lawlessness so loudly and publically. Respect for that. If someone is NOT supporting Palestinians in the ongoing Israeli-perpetrated genocide but instead are persecuting those who are, it shows their own moral-compass is disfunctional.
    But… Regretably you are showing what a hypocrite you are, that you think it to be tyrannical thought-control when your OWN considered, well-informed, researched views are curtailed by draconian and illogical policing of unreasonable law, but demonise others who have different views to yours on WW2 history.
    Freedom of thought and speech needs to be consistently applied. Not just protected and fought for when they are views that you agree with.

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  6. Solidarity Tony, recommend your book Zionism During the Holocaust (The Weaponising of memory in the service of the State and Nation) to everyone, brilliant piece of research and cross referencing. £10 on its way.

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  7. Heroic as ever! Viva Tony Greenstein!
    I shall send some money, but by bank transfer, not via your crowdfunder, cos Chuffed insist on PayPal, and we should all boycotting PayPal until they are end their sickening racist policy of denying their services to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza while allowing illegal Zionist colonists in the same areas to use them.
    See https://mondoweiss.net/2023/05/paypal-upholds-its-ban-on-palestinians/

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  8. Heroic as ever! Viva Tony Greenstein!
    I shall send some money, but by bank transfer, not via your crowdfunder, cos Chuffed insist on PayPal, and we should all boycotting PayPal until they are end their sickening racist policy of denying their services to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza while allowing illegal Zionist colonists in the same areas to use them.
    See https://mondoweiss.net/2023/05/paypal-upholds-its-ban-on-palestinians/

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  9. They picked the "right" person Tony. With all your deep legal knowledge they won't know what hits them when you take them on. Solidarity! Jane McArthur

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  10. Dear Tony I attempted to prosecute Starmer under section 5 POA I visited two police stations and they refused to prosecute although they did record the complaint. I made a formal complaint to Wirral magistrates court. within the 6 months time limit.[see below] All the necessary details were in the complaint, I was tricked into filling in another form, this was delayed for some time, some time later I was informed that my complaint was out of time, many Barristers informed me that all that is needed was the complaint only needed the basic facts etc
    I can supply more information if you require it.
    Regards Harry Law

    Dear Sir/Madam,
    As a litigant in person I wish to bring a private prosecution under section 6 of the prosecution of offenders act 1985.
    I wish to make a formal complaint against Sir Keir Starmer MP for Holborn and St Pancras, who is also the leader of HM Official opposition the Labour party. He has offices at Labour Party HQ in London and at the House of Commons, London, SW1A OAA.



    On the 9th October 2023, Israel’s Defence Minister, Yoav Gallant, said on behalf of the Israeli government:



    “I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel. Everything is closed.”

    In addition, according to Bloomberg television, 9th October 2023, he said “We are fighting human animals.”



    During an interview with Nick Ferarri, of LBC News on 11th October 2023 at the Labour party conference in Albert dock Liverpool, Mr Ferarri posed questions - regarding Israel’s intention to commit grave war crimes, including collective punishment and the withholding of food, water and energy to approximately 2.3 million men, women and children of Gaza -to Mr Starmer.



    Mr Ferarri asked Mr Starmer “A siege is appropriate. Cutting off power, cutting off water?” To which Mr Starmer replied “I think that Israel must have, does have, that right. It is an ongoing situation.” (Video evidence here).


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdBU3ufYGTY



    I accuse Mr Keir Starmer of a flagrant breach of section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986, i.e.



    Causing harassment, Alarm or Distress



    1/ A person is guilty of an offence if he...



    a) Uses threatening words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or

    b) Displays any writing or sign or other visible representation which is threatening within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby.



    Because his words condoned and encouraged the Israeli government’s illegal war crimes and in effect gave the Israeli government the green light to deprive the population of Gaza food, water and energy, in effect condemning them to death, Mr Starmer’s comments were directed against all the Palestinian inhabitants of the Gaza Strip, which has caused significant alarm and distress to them and has enraged and alarmed the Palestinian population of the UK, many of whom have relatives living in Gaza. The Muslim population, and millions of other UK citizens in the UK and the wider world, are enraged by Mr Starmer’s endorsement of Israel war crimes.Also there are many local councillors who have resigned because of Starmers statement.

    The International Court of Justice has ruled that the Israeli assault on Gaza is a plausible case of Genocide, with the necessary ‘intent’. The Israeli defence minister's threats as endorsed by Starmer were presented in evidence at the ICJ.



    Because the Palestinians are defined as a national/ethnic group, his comments do have a racially aggravated dimension to them.







    Yours sincerely, Harry Law

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    1. I wish you every success Harry but your chances of succeeding are minute. Police tend not to get involved in foreign affairs or matters involving diplomacy because of things like the Royal Prerogative. Also Starmer was Leader of Opposition at the time and whether you can establish a causal link between h is comments and Israel's actions are doubtful.

      But if it makes a serious point, which it does, then it is useful. You might also want to consider the International Criminal Court Act 2001 ss. 52/53 aiding and abetting war crimes.

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  11. Thanks for your courage Tony, your leadership is much valued
    Maurice Ward

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  12. I'd send you a little money if I could figure out how! but I'm in Canada.

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    1. I wouldn't worry about it Elizabeth. It's the thought that counts!!

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  13. Thanks for your reply Tony, you may be right however section 5 POA is a criminal offence and unlike the other sections of the Act, the Prosecution is not required to prove 'intent' [mens rea] the only defence is to prove that what was done or said was reasonable.

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  14. The Nazis demonised and smeared the Jews, and the Zionists and their supporters do exactly the same to those who oppose the genocide in Gaza and support the Palestinians. And the Palestinians themselves of course, and especially with their fake atrocity propaganda in respect of Hamas. The number of parallels between the Israelis and the Nazis is quite astonishing. Allan Howard, Mill Hill NW7

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  15. As Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. explained so succinctly, "When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking antisemitism.”

    YM

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    1. The problem with you Yaacov, like most Zionists, is you are so superficial. Martin Luther King didn't say this, but if he had done he'd be wrong. And after all he was hardly a radical.

      I've never met any antisemitism from anti-Zionists but plenty from Zionists. After all if some drunken bore in a pub tells me I don't belong in this country he is either an anti-Semite or a Zionist (or both).

      You Zionists have most in common with anti-Semites since you both believe that the 'real home' of Jews is in Israel.

      Do try to escape your indoctrination. I know it's difficult but eventually you will find a new freedom rather than repeating the same old rubbish

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  16. And as predicted, Greenstein doesn't publish my reply to him.

    YM

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    1. I am not going to publish lazy, tiresome tropes that 'anti-Zionism=anti-Semitism'. You get that everyday from the Daily Mail/Express etc. Nor am I going to public holocaust/genocide denial rubbish. If you have something interesting to say Yaacov, despite you being a Zionist, I will publish it.

      Given that you Zionists rarely grant a right of reply some might say your comments are Chutzpah but I'm happy to let people know that you feel aggrieved!

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