Since when is the Mantra that a Transwoman is a Woman the Litmus Test for Who to Support on the Left?
Firstly to avoid any misrepresentation my reference to ‘trans
Nazis’ is to be taken in the same way as references to ‘food Nazis’ which the Urban Dictionary defines
as someone ‘who insists on dictating what
others should call themselves based upon their diets.’
‘Trans Nazis’ refers to those who insist that support for
trans rights and opposition to discrimination isn’t enough. People must sign up
to the whole baggage of gender ideology such as ‘a transwoman is a woman’ and self-identification even though both
are by definition subjective.
Both of these beliefs are and should be the subject of
rational debate. A substantial section of feminists and the women’s movement object
or have serious doubts about them because, to state the obvious, a transwoman
is not a woman biologically, especially one with male genitalia. Merely saying
that you are a woman doesn’t change your sex. Gender of course is fluid and can
be anything you want it to be and is socially constructed. The question is why
people want to identify as a gender which is opposite to the sex they were born into.
Likewise the idea that self-identification alone is
sufficient makes the definition of sex entirely subjective whereas differences
in sex are a material reality. This is not to doubt gender dysphoria and body
dysmorphia but the solution is not to pretend that the answer is to redefine
someone with these conditions as being biologically of the opposite sex to that
they were born into.
Equally it is unlikely that a man would say they are a woman unless
that was how they felt. However that should not be to ignore that there are
men, however few is open to question, who will do so for opportunistic reasons
such as gaining access to vulnerable women in for example rape crisis or
domestic violence refuges. To say that all men in all circumstances who say
they are women must be taken at face value is to discount the fact that some
women have been raped by men claiming they are women in situations such as
prisons.
Academic studies have
found that ‘‘male-to-females . . .
retained a male pattern regarding criminality. The same was true regarding
violent crime.’ One can argue about this and there are differences of
opinion but to exclude all discussion a
priori on the basis that it does not fit some predetermined ideological
disposition owes more to religious fundamentalism than rational argument. See Evidence and
Data on Trans Women’s Offending Rate
I mention this because
it was only last week that Naomi Wimborne-Iddrissi, the Secretary
of Jewish Voices for Labour was supported by Momentum as part of the Grassroots 5 candidates for election
to Labour’s National Executive. Immediately there was a backlash by the Lansman
supporting Momentum Organiser Group, Momentum staff and others on the Lansmanite
wing of Momentum whose opposition to Naomi has nothing to do with Naomi or JVL’s
position on gender ideology (they don’t have one) and everything to do with the
fact that Lansman and Momentum have long
supported the weaponisation of ‘anti-Semitism’ as part of the right’s attacks on anti-Zionists
and supporters of the Palestinians.
Momentum under Jon
Lansman had an appalling record of anti-Palestinian racism and support for
Zionism, and the Jewish Supremacist State of Israel (which some would also
characterise as White Supremacist). False allegations of ‘anti-Semitism’ were
used repeatedly to attack supporters of the Palestinians, not least Jewish
anti-Zionists. I was the first but no
means the last victim of Lansman and Momentum’s racism. Jackie Walker and Marc
Wadsworth, both long standing Black, and in Jackie’s case Jewish, anti-racists
were expelled at the behest of the Zionist Jewish Labour Movement with the full
support of Momentum and Lansman.
Lansman’s attacks on the non-Zionist Jewish Voices for Labour
were endorsed by the Momentum National Co-ordinating Group. Writing
in the Jewish Chronicle ‘Liar’ Lee
Harpin wrote about how
Jon Lansman has launched an
angry attack on Jewish Voice For Labour, writing that they are "part of
the problem and not part of the solution to antisemitism in the Labour
Party."
In leaked correspondence, the
Momentum founder also stated it was his "observation... that neither the
vast majority of individual members of JVL nor the organisation itself can
really be said to be part of the Jewish community."
The ‘logic’ of Lansman being that because most British Jews
support Israel then socialists should distance themselves from those Jews who
are anti-Zionist and who do not support Israeli Apartheid. A more craven
response to racism and imperialism is hard to imagine.
Over
two-thirds of Labour members refused to accept that anti-Semitism was a
problem in the Labour Party but Lansman and Momentum insisted on supporting the
attack of Tom Watson, Ian Austin, John Mann and the Labour Right on the
supposed ‘anti-Semites’ in Labour. In so doing they destroyed the Corbyn
Project.
Yet far from repenting of these views Momentum, even under
its Forward Momentum leadership adopted them. When Jeremy Corbyn was suspended
by Starmer what was the response
of Momentum’s Chair Andrew Scattergood?
This ‘undermined the fight against
anti-Semitism’!
Yet instead of coming clean and disavowing their past
anti-Palestinian racism, Momentum is using the issue of trans rights as a
pretext for continuing along the same path. Naomi is not the real target so
much as a convenient political scapegoat. Since when is trans gender ideology
the litmus test of who to support on the left? Since when has one’s position on
anti-imperialism and anti-racism got to be viewed through the lens of gender
ideology?
Naomis
candidature as part of the Grassroots 5 attracted widespread, indeed virtually
unanimous support from the Left with statements issued by a host of people including
Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell, Dianne Abbott, Richard Burgon and Ian Lavery as
well as Ruth
Hayes, Reederwan Craayenstein of Labour Black Socialists, Miriam Margolyes,
Maxine Peake and the former Jewish ANC MP Andrew Feinstein.
Watch the video of Jeremy calling for support for Naomi and the other four
The 13 organisations supporting all 5 candidates are
Ø Campaign for Socialism
Ø Jewish Voice for Labour
Ø Kashmiris for Labour
Ø Labour Assembly Against
Austerity
Ø Labour Black Socialists
Ø Labour Briefing (Co-op)
Ø Labour CND
Ø Labour Representation
Committee
Ø Labour Women Leading
Ø Northern England Labour Left
Ø Red Labour
Ø Welsh Labour Grassroots
Ø Campaign for Labour Party
Democracy
It was welcome
that Momentum, which at its height had 40,000 members but which today has
little more than a quarter of that, had agreed to support left unity in the
wake of the unprecedented witchhunt and attack on the left by the neo-liberal Starmer
Junta. It seemed that the era of Jon Lansman, scabbing on fellow socialists and
allying with Zionists and assorted racists was finally over.
It seems
however that our optimism was premature. There were those in Momentum who, not
satisfied with having destroyed the Corbyn Project through their acceptance of
the false ‘anti-Semitism’ narrative and the IHRA misdefinition of
anti-Semitism were determined to continue the attack on JVL and anti-Zionist
Jews. How did they manage this? By adopting the slogans and dogma of the most
extreme trans activists.
Momentum
and an unrepresentative transactivist clique decided to break left unity and
insist that people should accept every dot and comma of gender ideology, even
though it is obvious that the left is divided on the issue as is the womens’
movement. You have to be blind not to notice that thousands of feminists and
women activists refuse to accept that someone born a male can simply call themselves
a woman and be accepted as such without question.
It is one
thing to agree that any form of discrimination against trans people is wrong
and unacceptable and must be fought like any other form of discrimination. It
is quite another to insist that you have to accept the gender ideology that
trans activists have foisted on people like some holy mantra.
Although Lansman has gone his
baleful influence still lingers and that was the primary reason why, having
supported Naomi earlier in the week Momentum backtracked in the face of a strike
threat by the Lansman leftovers amongst their staff. Which is reminiscent of
the behaviour of the Labour Party’s own staff.
In the wake of the long-awaited Forde
Report which recommended that JVL be involved in ‘anti-Semitism training’
(something I oppose anyway as racism cannot be fought by training, even
assuming that anti-Semitism today is a form of racism, as opposed to a
prejudiceds) the Zionist press began its own campaign.
The Jewish Chronicle
led with The Forde Report distorts the battle against Jew
hate explaining that ‘Three
letters render the Forde Report into the leaking of a Labour document on antisemitism
worthless: JVL.’. They were outraged
‘by the proposal
that Jewish Voices for Labour, a group set up by Corbynites solely to push the
idea that the party did not have a problem with antisemitism, should now be
responsible (along with the Jewish Labour for training in antisemitism. JVL should be proscribed, not embraced.
JVL issued a statement
in response to Momentum’s attempt to justify its decision. Momentum’s
‘explanation’ sought to explain why they reversed their decision to support a
unified left slate for the NEC. (see below)
On
conducting a united left NEC campaign –
Statement by
Jewish Voices for Labour
Sat
23 Jul 2022
Statements are circulating on social media advising that
Momentum has reversed its decision to support the Grassroots5 slate for the
Labour Party’s National Executive Committee elections which includes JVL member,
Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi. We deeply regret Momentum’s decision to separate itself
in this way from the united position which virtually all other left
organisations have committed to.
As a candidate, Naomi has been asked by several
interest groups to declare her position on a number of issues that are not
consensual in our movement, nor within the coalition of 13 organisations
backing Grassroots5. She has been asked to state her view on Proportional
Representation, to express support for the Labour Women’s Declaration and to
sign a written commitment drafted by Momentum on gender self-ID.
JVL’s position as part of the G5 coalition is that
it is not helpful for candidates to sign statements or answer questionnaires
during an election, that have not been agreed by the groups collectively.
We are all agreed on fundamental principles to do
with freedom of expression, democracy and human rights, international
solidarity, equality, working class liberation and an end to all forms of
discrimination against people for being who they are. We are not all agreed on
the details of how that liberation is to be achieved.
This is what we have said to those who requested a
policy commitment in each of the above cases.
This is not to accept or reject the views expressed
by those approaching us or our candidate – simply to explain that it would
require agreement by JVL and the other G5 coalition members for us to do so.
Some of these views relate to complex, nuanced subjects that require extended
reflection and respectful debate – something that cannot realistically occur in
the heat of an election campaign.
Naomi will be pleased if she can contribute to
creating an atmosphere within our movement that will facilitate such reflection
and debate in the longer term. If elected to the NEC, she would hope to
have productive discussions with like-minded CLP, TU and other NEC
representatives, developing principled positions on issues as they arise in
consultation with the supporting groups.
Meanwhile we ask comrades to understand that Naomi
is not in a position to act independently of the key groups supporting the
slate.
Our goal is to bring members together around issues
that unite us, not to split over those that could divide us.
Naomi’s, and our, priority is to mobilise with
allies in the party to win the greatest possible number of seats for the left
on the NEC. We
urge all groups and individuals who share this goal to get behind the
Grassroots5 candidates – Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi, Gemma Bolton, Yasmine Dar,
Mish Rahman and Jess Barnard.
See these
links for up to date information
on how to support the G5 campaign and cast your votes in the ballot. (Note the
party has announced a delay in the start of voting which is now likely to begin
in the week commencing August 1).
JVL issued this statement in response to Momentum’ attempt to
justify their breaking of ranks (yet again) whose sole effect is to give
comfort to Luke Akehurst and the right-wing candidates who are overt racists
and misogynists. As is always the case with Momentum they haven’t issued this
openly and subjected it to the normal debate one might expect of socialists.
Instead they have circulated it to a
select group of its key activists because Momentum have contempt for their own
passive membership, barely 3,000 of whom participated in the latest elections
to their NCG. They sought to explain why they reversed their decision to
support the unified left slate that has the best chance of securing a strong
left-wing presence on the NEC.
In the process according to Skwawkbox CLPD and its
representatives on Momentum’s NCG have
broken with Momentum. It seems that Momentum are destined to disappear in a
sectarian cesspool of its own making.
Momentum's actions undermine the fight against Starmer
Momentum
Weasel Worded Statement on Why They had Decided to Break with Left Unity
We recognise and salute the
good work that Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi has done standing up for Palestinian
rights and defending the rights of Jewish people to hold anti-Zionist
positions.
It was because of this that
on Saturday the NCG initially voted to endorse Naomi for the NEC election. It
was also agreed that Naomi be contacted to discuss concerns that had been
raised in that meeting relating to trans rights. These concerns arose from
previous Left slate negotiations for Labour’s National Women’s Committee –
which Naomi participated in – where the issue of self-ID became a sticking
point: a candidate who was open about not supporting self-ID was strongly
supported and in the end endorsed against Momentum’s wishes. As such Momentum
could not support the full slate. Once elected, that candidate subsequently
argued for these trans-exclusionary views publicly, before then quitting
Labour.
Following Saturday’s NCG
meeting, Momentum attempted to approach Naomi to discuss this and get a firm guarantee
in writing of a commitment to trans rights, so we could assure key
stakeholders, including trans socialists and other candidates, that all those
we endorse fully support the rights of trans people to self-identify their
gender.
Naomi declined a direct
meeting and her representatives were unable to provide a guarantee that Naomi
supports self-ID. As such an emergency meeting of the NCG was called and a
democratic vote to withdraw the endorsement passed.
We make no claim as to what
views Naomi does or does not hold, but in light of our concerns remaining
unaddressed, we could not in good faith maintain our endorsement.
This is not an abstract
issue. For years there has been a concerted attempt to marginalise trans people
and exclude them from public life, now reaching a horrifying crescendo in the
Tory leadership contest. This consensus against trans people stretches from the
liberal to the right-wing press and, shamefully, from the Tory Party to the
upper echelons of Labour, as Momentum has condemned in recent weeks. The next
NEC will have a role in approving the next Labour Party manifesto. It is
critical, therefore, that our candidates are open and firm in their commitments
to the rights of trans people.
Momentum’s approach to the
issue of candidate endorsements and what we expect of candidates may differ
from other organisations in the CLGA and we do not intend to make this a point
of conflict in this election. These organisations remain our allies – and we
look forward to continuing our work with them to build socialism in Britain and
beyond.
N.B. As standard practice we do not usually disclose the details of
negotiations for slates, but due to the briefing against Momentum and the
misleading version of events provided we felt clarity on this issue was vital.
Imagine what
Momentum’s response would be if the demand arose that before a left candidate
could be endorsed they must agree that Zionism is a form of racism and that
Israel is an Apartheid state! It would seem obvious that a society which oppresses
a whole people on the basis of their ethnic origin is a somewhat higher
priority than a question of identity politics and a clash between two oppressed
groups – women and transwomen – yet Momentum would jump up and down if Zionism
was made a litmus test. After all a large section of their leadership are
pro-Zionist.
What they have done is nothing more than
self-indulgence prioritising the concerns of a few trans activists over someone
who has always taken a principled position over the world’s only apartheid
state.
There is a
need for a serious debate on Trans Ideology and Transrights
In the interests of opening up debate I am
including two articles below. One, which is slightly cut, is by a gender
critical feminist and another is a response I did to an article
by a member of the Institute of Race Relations Collective which sought to
conflate gender critical feminists with the far-Right’s opposition to trans
people.
A response to “the Fight for Trans rights” - the UCU Left
statement
As a socialist, I stand with all oppressed people and
agree with the statement “improved rights for one oppressed group should never
be conditional on the oppression of other groups”.
I understand that the biology of
sex is complex but I am not aware of any basis for calling into question the
material reality that human beings, like other mammals, are a sexually
dimorphic species and sex is essentially binary with the population almost
exclusively identifiable as male or female dependent on their potential role in
biological reproduction. This is what I
mean when I say sex is a biological fact.
Gender by contrast is socially constructed which means that I do not
believe that there is anything other than cultural about gender and gender
roles - these are social constructions overlaid onto (not reducible to or
determined by) biological differences between human males and females and their
different roles in biological reproduction designed to enforce the reproductive
labour of women within the family. Even
if sex were not actually, completely, inevitably binary, this would be
irrelevant to the gender question. The
gender binary has arisen out of a social understanding
of sex as binary and like other socio-cultural phenomena serves the interests
of the dominant group and maintains that dominance through socialisation. As a feminist, I reject this gender binary.
Homosexuality and gender
non-conformity are a threat to a social order which depends on the adherence to
gender roles within a particular socially contingent notion of family. As a
consequence, they are subject to oppression and discrimination in the form of
homophobia and transphobia which, whilst having similar roots to sexism are not
identical or reducible to it. I am
subject to sexism because I am socially read as belonging to the female sex
class and the oppression of sexism functions in part through the social
coercion to conform to feminine gender roles (along with other factors such as
fear of male violence). I abhor the
oppression caused by the construct of gender roles and the liberation we seek
must include the freedom to have consensual sex with anyone we choose and to be
free of gendered expectations in the development of our social identity. Gendered identities do not precede but emerge
from and within sexist societies in which individuals are gendered according to
their sex. I don’t see my gendered
identity as a woman as a matter of self-identification, but as the result of
having been and being socially read as a woman which includes assumptions about
my biological sex.
Gender identity is defined as a
feeling or ‘sense of oneself’, often deeply held and although I have heard some
trans advocates argue that it is “more than a feeling”, I have never seen a
clear articulation of what that “more” is.
Accepting the concept of gender identity as a deeply held sense of being
a man or woman or non-binary, begs the question of the source of this deeply
held sense. I would reject (as the UCU
Left statement does) any appeal to a material base for gender identity such as
gendered brain just as I would reject any appeal to justification of gender on
the basis of biology. The notion of
gender identity being linked to a gendered brain is clearly as sexist as saying
that gender roles are determined by physiology.
But if there is not a material base, what is the source of this
immutable deeply held sense of oneself, is it a kind of innate immaterial
essence, a kind of ‘soul’? Because I am a materialist I reject this too.
I don’t believe I have a soul or
that I have an immaterial deeply held sense of my gender identity. I do not
claim to have the soul of a woman (how would I know?). All I lay claim to is feeling like me in my
sexed body having lived in a sexist society all my life. I am, to a greater or lesser extent,
conscious of the ways in which I conform to gendered expectations even as I
reject the idea that there should be any expectations of me which relate to my
presumed biological sex and try to resist them. My oppression as a woman is
independent of whether or not I claim the gender identity ‘woman’ and in
childhood it preceded any emerging sense of my social identity. Could I disguise my way out of that oppression
to the extent that I could ‘pass’ as a man?
Would this eradicate the legacy of oppression previously
experienced? I think I cannot simply
self-identify my way out because my gender identity is not just a question of
self-identification but of social identification.
Rejection of gendered social norms
and resultant social identities is the basis of feminism and I understand how
rejection of the gendered social identities foisted on us all might lead some
of us to want to escape one gender identity by taking on an alternative gender
identity. I believe in the distress and suffering gender dysphoria causes and
it is because I think it is important to minimise this distress and suffering
that I think it is important that we seek to understand it and its causes. That
an individual’s sense of self should be at odds with their sexed body and its
associated social identity is a symptom not an explanation and insisting on
affirmation precludes any questioning of possible causes of dysphoria. I think this is important because in a highly
gendered society such as ours the phenomena of men rejecting a masculine and
taking on a feminine gender identity and women doing the reverse are not
equivalent. It is not the case that
gender critical feminists who critique the concept of gender identity “rarely
consider trans men, non-binary and other gender nonconforming people in their
analysis of trans people’s experience” as the statement suggests, quite the
opposite. It is noticeable, however,
that trans men are much less visible and vocal in promoting the primacy of
gender identity than some trans women have been.
Feminists are well aware that
throughout history women have taken on masculine gender identities and sought
to ‘pass’ as men. This was not
necessarily the result of a deeply held sense of gender identity but often,
more prosaically, to escape various forms of sexist oppression and access some
of the privileges of manhood (including being able to live in a socially
accepted way with their female partner). Yet, in the last decade, the gender
identity service dealing with all UK candidates for a sex change under 18 saw a
rise in referrals from 77 in 2009 to 2728 in 2019 with the vast majority of
these more recent referrals being female. How does insisting on affirmation
help, or might it even prevent, us from seeking to understand this phenomenon
and its causes?
As Vaishnavi Sundar has said “In
this dystopian world where misogyny is rampant and womanhood is commodified,
being female comes at a cost. […] It is no surprise that young girls are
fleeing womanhood like a house on fire”.
There is nothing progressive about accepting that if young women feel
they can’t conform with the version of womanhood this society requires of them
they can seek an individual solution by becoming a man. There is nothing progressive or challenging
of the gender binary in accepting that discomfort or distress caused by one’s
designated gender can be resolved by claiming the other (I distinguish this
from self-identification as ‘non-binary’ to which I refer later). This is so not least because it is not a
solution for many as the growth in detransitioner organisations and groups
testifies. The cost of de-pathologising
gender dysphoria is the pathologizing of the healthy body and here I am
troubled by the similarities I see between a woman having her breasts removed
in an attempt to attain a better physical match with her gender identity and a
woman having her breasts enlarged for the same reason. I see both as the result of the oppression of
gender and both as seeking a solution through individual transformation rather
than through social revolution.
Gender identity (which I see as a
symptom of oppression) conflates gender and sex and denies the way in which our
sexed bodies are the root cause of our oppression. This inevitably leads to the erasure of women
as a sex class subject to sexism and misogyny....
While we live in a sexist society,
sex is an important and meaningful social and political category which must not
be erased. At the same time, I also
recognise the nearly limitless variation in gender identity that can emerge
from the interaction of biology and society.
There are thousands of ways of being a man and as many of being a woman
each involving infinite variations in degrees of gender (non) conformity. I cannot, therefore, accept the ontological position that trans women
are women and trans men are men for the reasons outlined above and because it
accepts and confirms the gender binary.
However, I applaud and stand in solidarity with those who take the political position of self-identifying
as non-binary....
In solidarity,
Nadia
Feminism, biological fundamentalism and the attack on
trans rights
Dear IRR Collective,
As you know I have had links with the
Institute going back to the days of Anti-Fascist Action in the 1980s. I have
always been an admirer of your work and in particular of your late Director
Siva. That is why I am writing to express my concern over the article by Sophia
Siddiqui, Feminism, biological fundamentalism and the attack on trans rights. It seems to represent a disturbing departure from
your approach to identity politics, best articulated by Jenny Bourne’s pamphlet
Homelands
of the mind: Jewish feminism and Identity Politics.
The issue of transrights vs gender
critical feminists (or TERFS) is it seems to me one of identity politics. It is
founded on a disagreement between two oppressed groups and I see no reason why
the IRR or anti-racists more broadly should take a position on an issue which
both divides the left, the women’s and anti-racist movements.
The piece by Sophia effectively
conflates the politics of the far-Right to the position on trans and gender
issues of large sections of the women’s movement, the left (& others). This
is dangerous and the analysis is simplistic. This is dangerous and its only
effect could be pushing people into the arms of the far-Right.
The way that the far-Right treat Black
people and migrants is not the same as their treatment of sexual minorities and
women. Simply confusing different forms of oppression does not help us
understand the strategies of the far-Right.
The attitude of the far-Right is in any
case not uniform. In France the Front Nationale is led by a woman. In other
parts of the far-Right attitudes to sexual minorities have changed, for example
in The Netherlands with Pim Fortyn. Today gay rights for example is used as a
way of demonstrating how Muslims are not part of the Judeo-Christian heritage.
The EDL have also done this to some extent.
When the far-Right in Spain and Hungary
campaign around the slogan ‘If you are
born a man, you are a man. If you are a woman, you will continue to be so’
they are not simply referring to accepted biological facts any more than
racists do when they place Black and Muslim people outside the national
collective. Clearly what they mean is that men will perform the roles men have
traditionally played and women likewise. In other words physical differences
translate into different functional and cognitive roles and abilities. This is
not what the debate around trans rights is about amongst feminists.
Of course attacks on trans-people by
whoever are to be condemned without reservation. The same with any sexual
minority but it does not for example follow from that that transwomen are
women. Leaving aside the question as to
what we mean by a woman.
Sophia says that ‘gender critical’
feminists play into the hands of far-right street forces and extreme-right
electoral parties which would like to abolish anti-discrimination protections
altogether.’ I am not aware that any section of gender critical feminists are
calling for the abolition of sections of the Equality Act. What they do want is
to preserve those sections that protect women’s space.
The article says that ‘‘gender critical’ feminism often represent
trans people as sexual offenders and threats to the safety of women – arguments
that hinge on their belief that trans women are not women.’ This is confusing a number of
different arguments.
I know of no one who suggests that all
or most trans people represent a threat to womens’ safety. However there is a
real issue about whether, when a man declares that he is a transwoman, that
that must be taken as the end of the matter. Is it seriously suggested that
there are no men who would not act in bad faith in order to gain access to
vulnerable women? The actions of Karen White are well known but there have been
several other attacks on women in prisons. Likewise transwomen in male prisons
are equally vulnerable That would
suggest the need for special units for trans prisoners rather than placing them
in womens’ prisons.
There was also the attack by trans activists on women in Hyde Park in 2017. When I
looked at the video I saw men in skirts not women doing the attacking. Just as
in Nazi Germany there were gays in the Nazi party who were not only extreme
anti-Semites (Rohm and the SA leadership) but were wedded to a masculinist
ideology of extreme misogyny.
You say that some women ‘use the same biological arguments that a
‘man is a man, a woman is a woman’, to debase the rights of trans, intersex and
non-binary people’. But if what you say is true does that not equally apply
to trans women who are claiming to be women. If they haven’t had gender change
surgery and transitioned on what basis do they claim to be women? That they
conform to traditional sexual stereotypes?
Of course anyone has the right to claim
to be a woman but you cannot claim the right to insist that other people accept
that claim. This is remarkably similar to another example of identity politics
when Zionist Jews claim the right to define what they claim is their own
oppression when we all know that what they are really doing is defining the
oppression of Palestinians.
By definition such claims are
subjective and metaphysical. There is no rational method or rule to
differentiate between bogus and genuine claims to be oppressed unless they are
seen in terms of class and race. Otherwise it results in conceptual chaos,
which is at the heart of identity politics. Sophia states that
Just as scientific racism centred on supposed biological
differences to classify humans in a rigid racial hierarchy, ‘gender critical’
feminists are propelling biological arguments that essentialise sex and its
relation to gender identity, contending that sex is purely biological depending
on what reproductive organs you have.
It seems to me that you are confusing
separate things. It goes without saying that there are biological differences between
men and women. Just as there are obvious
differences such as colour between Black and White people. This is not the
issue.
The problem is that racists use these
differences to classify people as inferior or untermenschen on the basis of physical or racial/religious
differences. What they are doing is extrapolating from physical difference in
order to assert that Black, Jewish etc. people are cognitively or behaviourally
different, thus justifying discrimination and worse. No one that I know argues that transwomen
possess different innate abilities by virtue of physical or gender differences.
Of course we must be vigilant to ensure
that transwomen (& men) are not discriminated against but that doesn’t mean
that their gender identity has to be accepted by other women and men without
question. The definition of gender according to the World Health Organisation is ‘the characteristics of women, men, girls and
boys that are socially constructed.’ Whereas the definition of sex refers
to ‘the different biological and
physiological characteristics of females, males and intersex persons, such as
chromosomes, hormones and reproductive organs.’ In essence reproduction of
the human species. So when Sophia talks
of ‘gender norms’ I wonder what, in an age of gender self-identity she means.
The socialisation of the female gender is for example child care. How does this
fit with defining trans women as women?
I find it surprising that you are criticizing
the EHRC for intervening in a case where someone is dismissed for asserting
that ‘women must have the right to question transgender identity without
being abused, stigmatised or risking losing their job’. Are you really
saying that students at Sussex University were right to demand that Professor
Kathleen Stock should be dismissed for her beliefs?
Would you agree with the (Zionist)
Jewish students at Bristol University who have just secured the dismissal of
Professor David Miller because his view are also a ‘threat’ to their ‘safety’
as they define it? This is a very
dangerous road you are going down.
Sophia asserts that ‘What happens to trans rights today will have
ramifications for anyone who lives outside of gender norms.’ Why? This
assumes that gender critical feminists are all in favour of boys and girls, men
and women, conforming to traditional stereotypes. One could equally ask what trans rights
activists mean by asserting that they are women? In what respect? Are they not defining a woman
in traditional terms?
It would seem to me, no doubt in my
innocence, that the obvious solution would be for trans women and men to define
themselves in terms of a trans gender identity.
I asked a friend who was a delegate at the Labour Party
conference who has been involved in refugee and anti-racist work most of her
life for her take on this and her response was that:
‘You did ask me
and I said I struggled with the idea that biology could be transcended by self
ID. I was talking to XXX XXX about it in Brighton. She said free speech is
being shut down just the same as the anti -Semitism smear. As you point out
victims of the anti-Semitism smear are treated very differently.
For better or worse the left is divided over the issue of
transrights vs women’s rights and what is called gender critical feminism. There needs to be a debate over these issues
not attempts to close down free speech by crying ‘TERF’ or ‘bigot’.
Finally can I ask you whether Sophia’s article represents
the collective view of the Institute?
With best wishes,
Tony
Tony, Thanks for writing this. News just in this morning:- Lesbian Barrister Alison Bailey won her court case against Garden Chambers who discriminated against her for her biological belief that lesbians are same sex (not gender) attracted. She was one of the founding members of Stonewall in the 70's who now- a- days run courses on breaking down lesbian barriers , gaslighting them into believing a man in a dress is a lesbian. The judgement said Stonewall is a danger to women and lesbians. All men are men, no matter what goes on in their heads.
ReplyDeleteWell Tony, that was a productive few hours: reading your blog-post and following up on the links. What better way to spend my Covid isolation time! I have read your stuff before and I often find myself in agreement with you, although not entirely this time. Also, for the record, I voted for Naomi in the recent NEC elections and I do not regret so doing.
ReplyDeleteI would however take particular issue with two aspects of your post: (1) The “Evidence and Data on Trans Women’s Offending Rates” and (2) “redefin[ing] someone with these conditions as being biologically of the opposite sex to that they were born into”.
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As I read it, the evidence submitted to parliament by Professors Freedman, Stock and Sullivan (which you cite) tells us precisely nothing about the specific case of whether or not trans women are more likely to pose a risk to women (cis or trans) in a female prison. It might show a correlation – although even here the analysis has been questioned – between previous offending behaviour and birth-assigned sex, but unless someone can convince me of how being assigned “male” at birth necessarily predisposes a person to commit crimes of any nature I must remind you of the statistician’s mantra that correlation does not imply causality. To be sure, there are many factors to be considered concerning the predicted likelihood of a convicted person re-offending (inside or out) but these factors form a combination unique to each individual and birth-assigned sex is not one of them; at least not according to any evidence of which I am aware. Furthermore, it cannot go unremarked that one of the co-authors of the “evidence” was Professor Kathleen Stock – a vociferous opponent of transgender self-identification and highly unlikely to be unbiased in her contribution.
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In all the material I have so far read on this subject there is one thing that keeps nagging away at me. That is, the false dichotomy between sex and gender with its insidious ramifications. The WHO, ONS and others consider gender to be “socially constructed” whereas sex is “biologically determined” in some latter-day rehash of the nature versus nurture debate. However, it is currently not possible to determine either a person’s sex or their gender at birth because the influence of that person’s neurology – without question a significant biological factor – on their developing sex/gender is unknown. Neuroscience cannot, in general, tell us how a person’s birth neurology will develop over time or in what manner their neurology will interact with environmental factors: giving rise to a psychology, a sense of self, strengthened or weakened neural pathways and eventually an altered neurology. There is thus a dialectical interplay at work between neurology and environment – between nature and nurture – not just one or the other in isolation. But this is not some reactionary or reductionist view – biological or genetic determinism, eugenics etc. – which would condemn a person to a pre-determined sex/gender if only we understood their neurology a bit better. On the contrary, a person’s DNA and thus embryonic neurology is not an immutable blueprint for their sex/gender but the starting point for a constant interaction between and synergistic development of their neurology and their psychology. This, in my opinion at least, offers a way out of the blind alley into which rigid sex/gender definitions have led us because a person is only “born into” a sex as a consequence of having been assigned a sex at birth, i.e. there is no question of “reassignment” just, sometimes, the correction of an incorrect assignment. But I must finish by saying that even a paring down of the definition of “biological sex” to an an absurd minimum – male/female gonads, externally visible characteristics, role in reproduction etc. – would be as fraught with difficulties as the current definitions.
thank you for your comment. Not sure what neurology has to do with it and I think that sex is quite simple to determine for 99.99% of people. Of course, as you say, gender is socially constructed and I have no quarrel with a man who identifies as a woman. But biologically he is still a man though obviously with gender surgery that is less so. But I also have doubts about the ethics of such surgery given it is irreversible and trans people are detransitioning. Either way these are my impressions and I have no expertise on the subject.
DeleteYou say "it is currently not possible to determine either a person’s sex" at birth. I'm afraid this is just nonsense. Doctors are 99.99% accurate at determining a person's sex by simply looking at them. In rare cases there can be extremely debilitating disorders of sexual development that disguise the truth from doctors, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with the gender identity ideology you're attempting to conflate with DSDs here.
DeleteGender is “socially constructed” whereas sex is “biologically determined” – see my original comment. It seems we can agree about gender but not about sex so I will restrict myself mostly to the latter. There are about 100 billion neurons in a human brain – not quite as many as there are stars in the Milky Way but certainly in the same ball park. There are about a quadrillion (10 to the 15 or a thousand trillion) interconnections between those neurons. If a person’s sex is determined by their biology – all of it, not just a convenient subset imposed by history and prejudice – then the “brain component” of a person’s sex is far too complex to be determined by observation or by “simply looking at them”; nor by X-ray, blood test nor any means other than through the psychology that emerges from their neurology in its interactions with the environment. Thus a person’s sex must include their psychology as a proxy for their brain’s neurology and that cannot be known until they can express it. For example, a person may have the outwardly-visible, secondary sexual characteristics of a male but their brain is adamant in its conclusion that it is female. This is not “gender identity ideology … conflate[d] with DSDs” but material, biological fact. A person’s sex and gender are both manifestations of biology and environment in constant interaction with each other and to artificially separate them loses sight of the thing upon which I hope we can all agree, i.e. combatting sex/gender-based discrimination in all its forms.
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Delete"For example, a person may have the outwardly-visible, secondary sexual characteristics of a male but their brain is adamant in its conclusion that it is female. This is not “gender identity ideology … conflate[d] with DSDs”"
But that is precisely what it is. You are attempting to conflate a psychological delusion with a physical, medical, disorder of sexual development. A biologically female person- whether they are convinced that they are male, 'non-binary' or Napoleon Bonaparte, remains biologically female, and no intervention we have ever devised even scratches the surface of changing that immutable fact.
What you're describing- a purely subjective mental feeling ABOUT one's biological sex- is nothing whatsoever to do with one's actual, biological sex. There is little evidence that "gendered brains" even exist, except in the fantasies of ideologically driven people. The fact that you're confused on this point is very telling about what route this idea has taken to make its way into your mind.
You also state: "Thus a person’s sex must include their psychology as a proxy for their brain’s neurology"
And the answer is obviously no, it must not include their "psychology", unless you're also willing to claim that another subset of delusional people are somehow "biologically Napoleon", or "biologically Jesus", simply because they fervently psychologically believe themselves to be.
Thank you for publishing this article Mr Greenstein. It's gratifying to see that your views on this topic- as on most others, it seems- are informed by reason and facts rather than any anecdotal or ideological niceties. It's a rare take these days, and it is very much appreciated by those of us who feel permanently in the political wilderness, I assure you.
ReplyDeletethank you. I have tried to steer between the increasingly heated and emotional state of a debate which saw violence break out at a counter demonstration to feminists holding a rally this weekend. Cries of 'Nazi' were shouted when it is very clear that the women were not fascists.
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