tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post8802134873972693073..comments2024-03-28T04:26:49.354+00:00Comments on Tony Greenstein's Blog: Weaponising the holocaustTony Greensteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-22336423190465234562012-05-19T21:55:57.806+01:002012-05-19T21:55:57.806+01:00This is extremely interesting. Thanks both Kenneth...This is extremely interesting. Thanks both Kenneth and Tony.<br /><br />Not surprisingly the fascistoid thug Lieberman doesn't know history or has no scruples distorting it for political hay.Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-3916406134703222312012-05-19T13:57:05.310+01:002012-05-19T13:57:05.310+01:00Kenneth,
thank you for this. I first learnt some...Kenneth,<br /><br />thank you for this. I first learnt something of the elections of the Mufti from Nathan Weinstock's book 'Zionism and the False Messiah'. On page 117 it describes how the Mufti came a poor 4th in the elections, had no religious qualifications and was appointed by Samuel because he was a right-wing nationalist as well as being a reactionary large landowner. Weinstock speculates that this was to offset Zionist nationalism but I think it goes beyond that. <br /><br />Weinstock cites Yehoshua Porath's 'Emergence of the Palestinian national movement 1918-29 pp 189-93. Weinstock's book is the best overall history of the establishment of the Israeli state. It is of course marxist! Ironically Weinstock has become a Zionist and does his best to stop the book being distributed or printed.<br /><br />Samuel incidentally was not merely Jewish but an ardent Zionist who played a crucial behind the scenes role in securing the Balfour Declaration. This is important because most Jews then were opposed to it and the only member of the Cabinet who opposed the Declaration was Sir Edwin Montagu, the only Jewish member.<br /><br />strictly speaking Haj al amin Husseini was never Mufti because he never received a letter of appointment nor was it Gazetted!<br /><br />I totally agree with the rest of your comments. Palestinians had no control over the Mufti and have confined him to irrelevance. He was a British/Zionist appointee.<br /><br />I am not aware of any involvement by Muslim SS divisions in the deportation of Croation Jews. That was done by the Croation SS. The Albanian Skanderberg did hand over 210 Jews in Kosovo. This was precisely why they were sent for 'retraining' on the Jewish question. The Muslim religious authorities issued 3 fatwas against the Croatian-Nazi treatment of Jews. Find me an equivalent example in Christianity?<br /><br />I'm certainly not aware of their presence in Hungary. <br /><br />The real point is what happens today. We have Lieberman greeting the Foreign Minister of Lithuania, someone who looks back fondly to the days when most of their Jews were wiped out. That is the real story, which I posted a few days ago.Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-25336855051836902092012-05-19T13:11:26.482+01:002012-05-19T13:11:26.482+01:00From Haaretz // Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman...From Haaretz // Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman has ordered diplomats to use an old photograph of a former Palestinian religious leader meeting Adolf Hitler to counter world criticism of a Jewish building plan for East Jerusalem. Asked why Lieberman issued the order, a spokesman said: “because it’s important for the world to know the facts” and would not elaborate.//<br /><br />What ‘facts’? Simple, unbiased, non-partisan, maths, tells us there are no facts associated with today’s Palestinians. First some history on Snr al-Husseini.<br /><br />Haj Amin al-Husseini was sentenced to ten years in prison by the British for inciting riots in 1920, he was given amnesty by the high commissioner of Palestine, one Herbert Samuel, who then appointed him as Mufti of Jerusalem, 1921. Samuel was also responsible for creating the Supreme Muslim Council, which al-Husseini was appointed to lead in the following year. Ironically Herbert Samuel was Jewish.<br /><br />The Palestinians of the time had no say in his appointment as Mufti of Jerusalem. His appointment was opposed by the Muslim High Council, regarding him as a thug. The Palestinians had no say in his appointment to the Supreme Muslim Council. They had no say in his appointment to the Arab Higher Committee. He murdered Jews and Arabs who would not comply.<br /><br />The Mufti opposed increased Jewish immigration to Palestine and was responsible for the 1929 / 1936 riots against Jewish settlement. The British declared the Arab Higher Committee illegal, al-Husseini lost his Presidency of the Supreme Muslim Council and even his membership on the Waqf committee and went into exile in Syria. He never returned to Palestine.<br /><br />In 1941, when he met Hitler he was no longer the Mufti of Jerusalem and no longer an official representative of the Palestinian people. The volunteer Muslim forces he controlled were not Palestinian. They didn’t operate in Palestine. // In 1945, Yugoslavia sought to indict the Mufti (*?) as a war criminal for his role in recruiting 20,000 Muslim volunteers for the SS, who participated in the killing of Jews in Croatia and Hungary. He escaped from French detention in 1946, however, and continued his fight against the Jews from Cairo and later Beirut. He died in 1974// (* he was not actually the Mufti at that time) …. by the time he returned to the M East Hitler was dead, any support tied to Hitler’s promises, was non-existent. He was refused entry into Jerusalem by King Abdullah, King Tallal and King Hussein of Jordan. He died in exile in 1974.<br /><br />Now let’s look at some simple maths. The Palestinians of today have a life expectancy of 73 yrs. In 1941 it was likely lower. The date of Foreign Minister Lieberman’s order 22nd July 2009.<br /><br />68 years has passed between 1941 and 2009. Subtract 68 from life expectancy (today) 73 = 5yrs old in 1941. In 1948, 12 yrs old. In 1936, 0-1yrs old. In 1929 / 1920 not even born. Simple maths tells us that today’s Palestinians had NOTHING to do with the riots of 1920, the Mufti of Jerusalem, the riots of 1929 1936, the Holocaust or Hitler or WW2 or for that matter, the 1948/9 war. They were only children!<br /><br />Yet the Foreign Minister of Israel, Snr Leiberman, encourages people to make an association between the Palestinians of today and events that occurred while they were only small children. Events they could not have possibly had any influence on what so ever.<br /><br />No Palestinians AT ALL voted for the appointment of the Mufti of Jerusalem in 1921. The Palestinians did not vote him into any position of power. No Palestinians of today were involved in the riots of the 1920′s – 1929 – 1936. No Palestinians of today supported al-Husseini or Hitler in 1941. No Palestinians of today, or 1941 for that matter, fought in Croatia or Hungary. It is doubtful that many, if any, Palestinians of today fought in the war of 1948. The majority of Palestine refugees were and still are innocent civilians.Kenneth Hammondnoreply@blogger.com