tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post5903026910839262449..comments2024-03-28T04:26:49.354+00:00Comments on Tony Greenstein's Blog: Jonathan Hoffman's Lies Catch Up With HimTony Greensteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-27108553960697722342010-09-03T02:21:12.278+01:002010-09-03T02:21:12.278+01:00Yes Hoffman is active on CIF Watch. No doubt abou...Yes Hoffman is active on CIF Watch. No doubt about it. How tactful do u have to be on this blog? Not at all. Just truthful. Tell it like it is and that means Hoffman's true political allies and friends are to be found on the far-right, including the neo-Nazi right, as long as they are pro-Israeli of course!<br /><br />That is why he has become so hot under the collar. Anyone else with an ounce of intelligence wouldn't even have thought of accusing us of having 'photoshopped' a photo taken by a professional photographer. It would destroy his professional integrity hence he threatened to sue and Hoffman backed down, issuing a grovelling apology and admitting he had lied.<br /><br />And as you say when cross examining someone in court, 'well Mr Hoffman, if you've already told lies about Zionism why should we now believe anything else you say?'Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-3773914143849299492010-09-02T22:13:46.361+01:002010-09-02T22:13:46.361+01:00Great work, Tony. I wrote a short piece on Mr Hoff...Great work, Tony. I wrote a short piece on Mr Hoffman's activities last year in regard to Richard Goldstone's report:<br /><br />http://richardhutton.wordpress.com/2009/10/25/due-consideration-the-richard-goldstone-report/ <br /><br />I'm not sure how tactful one needs to be on your blog, but the highly aggressive 'CIFWatch' website is run by somebody named 'Hawkeye'; whose idiom, methodology, and concerns are strikingly similar to Jonathan Hoffman's. <br /><br />Also, one of his clumsier peers spilled the beans: <br /><br />http://www.internetengagement.com.au/community/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=19 <br /><br />Best wishes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-46281472629924222322010-08-31T19:40:15.679+01:002010-08-31T19:40:15.679+01:00When I lie I apologise.
- Eh?
Jonathan Hoffman ha...<i>When I lie I apologise.</i><br />- Eh?<br /><br />Jonathan Hoffman has just admitted in public that he is a liar!<br /><br />He's now descended from being an idiot to a cretin, sorry, cretan.<br /><br />The Cretan Paradox -<br />- All Cretans are liars. I am a Cretan.<br /><br />- All Jonathan Hoffman's are liars. I am Jonathan Hoffman.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretan_paradox<br /><br /><br />How can we trust a self-confessed liar that he is telling the truth about all the lies he spouts?joe90 kanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15925893894108250518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-90445079691857926922010-08-31T15:31:14.767+01:002010-08-31T15:31:14.767+01:00"But at least Jonathan Hoffman has admitted t..."But at least Jonathan Hoffman has admitted to lying about his open fraternisation with the EDL's Jewish Division and its neo-Nazi co-ordinator, Roberta Moore. "<br /><br />=> You are a stinking Trot Lier. You work by provocation and mendacity. Despicable.<br /><br />JHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-84618537223564890702010-08-31T10:57:51.134+01:002010-08-31T10:57:51.134+01:00If you apologised when you lied, Jona-fun von Hoff...If you apologised when you lied, Jona-fun von Hofftroll, you'd be apologising all the time. So that's another lie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-20808823257302823132010-08-31T04:26:49.759+01:002010-08-31T04:26:49.759+01:00No Hoffie, you only apologise when you are in dang...No Hoffie, you only apologise when you are in danger of being sued, although you have at least admitted that you lied. Maybe you should now admit that you lied about that so-called anti-Semitic attack on you by fellow Jew, Mike Cushman at the SOAS meeting. You know, when he said 'D'you really want to know?' and you said that everyone was shouting 'Jew', even though a large proportion of the audience was Jewish, as were 2 members of the panel...Well, you might have to admit it sooner or later....<br /><br />I agree with Tony. There is no need to lie about Israel- the truth is bad enough.<br /><br />Now Hoffie, can you please now apologise to Tony and I for calling us liars and admit that you have made that accusation 'entirely without foundation' and 'no attempt to check accuracy'?<br /><br />It is odd that you don't feel humiliated. Are you in denial about your feelings as well as about Israel's wrongdoings? Can you actually feel anything other than anger and hate? I've seen it in your eyes. Sounds like you need some therapy.Deborah Finkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05479916311984549156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-3408602900061262162010-08-31T01:57:51.874+01:002010-08-31T01:57:51.874+01:00Unlike Jonathan Hoffman I don't like, ever, wh...Unlike Jonathan Hoffman I don't like, ever, when it comes to Zionism and Israel. Why? Because not only would it be immoral but there is no need to do so. The truth is damning itself.<br /><br />But at least Jonathan Hoffman has admitted to lying about his open fraternisation with the EDL's Jewish Division and its neo-Nazi co-ordinator, Roberta Moore. The reasons for so doing are, well, pretty obvious. <br /><br />It also leaves in tatters Hoffman's claim to be a dedicated and since anti-racist, with reference to Weymann Bennett. There was an anti-fascist demonstration today in Brighton against the English Nationalist Alliance. There was a large Palestine Solidarity contingent on the demonstration. But no Zionists of course. Well not quite. The fascists were displaying the Israeli flag!<br /><br />If Hoffman were sincere he would ask himself why is it that the fascists, holocaust deniers and just plain vanilla racists, queue up to demonstrate their support for Israel?<br /><br />And whilst we are at it, JH has told another lie. I'm not an Israeli hater. Far from it. I hate what it is doing and has been doing and I hate the idea that a State gives preference and privileges to one section of society on racial/religious/ethnic grounds over another. Be they Jews or non-Jews.<br /><br />I feel a great warmth and solidarity with those Israelis who have, despite their privilege, taken the side of the Palestinians. Just as I feel the same when reading about those who supported and sheltered, at the risk of their own lives, Jews during the Holocaust.<br /><br />But I suspect that JH and his neo-Nazi friend Moore won't understand this.Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-76398047223490253042010-08-30T23:45:37.205+01:002010-08-30T23:45:37.205+01:00Not in the slightest but humiliating. When I lie I...Not in the slightest but humiliating. When I lie I apologise. For the Israel haters such as you and Fnik, lying, defamation and provocation are a way of life.<br /><br />JHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-26913808482472007762010-08-29T16:12:30.486+01:002010-08-29T16:12:30.486+01:00Well, we've always known him to be dishonest, ...Well, we've always known him to be dishonest, but this time it's been proven.<br />The trouble is, if you lie enough you start to believe your own lies and that seems to be what has happened when he spouts nonsense about Israel and anti-Semitism. One would hope that he has lost his credibility and that the JC won't listen to him anymore but as we know, Pollard is happy to print lies when he doesn't think he has a chance of being sued. (I think the JC took Hoffman's comments down and pushed him into apologising after the photographer complained).<br /><br />Now, wouldn't it be wonderful if next time Hoffman accuses us of lying, he apologises saying that the comments<br />he's made about us, Israel, Palestine and Hamas are 'entirely without foundation' and that he made 'no attempt to check their accuracy'.<br /><br />The other night he accused Gideon Levy, an Israeli who lives in Israel and who has been to the West Bank, of not knowing the facts...Of course, Hoffman is the world's oracle and knows more than anyone else....Hoffman, and by extension Israel, is always right.<br /><br />More amusing, was when Levy said there are some people who will defend whatever Israel does, and that there was one there at the meeting...Hoffman jumped up defensively (surely he couldn't have been referring to him!) and said, 'That's not true'. The irony seemed to be lost on him. Actually, I don't suppose he would defend everything Israel did, say if it suddenly got rid of the Settlements...Deborah Finkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05479916311984549156noreply@blogger.com