tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post5152396395797539535..comments2024-03-28T04:26:49.354+00:00Comments on Tony Greenstein's Blog: Anything But Free – The Guardian’s CIF under SeatonTony Greensteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-43158759040990330642009-09-08T00:48:41.076+01:002009-09-08T00:48:41.076+01:00I forgot to say that people are welcome to put rej...I forgot to say that people are welcome to put rejected posts on here. David why don't you write a short introductory article to such a blog?Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-84830336849169002322009-09-08T00:47:59.763+01:002009-09-08T00:47:59.763+01:00David
I entirely agree with your comments. There...David<br /><br />I entirely agree with your comments. There was nothing racist in what you posted but CIF is now in need of an urgent backbone transplant - in plain terms it is spineless and fears offending the Zionist lobby and New Labour's pro-Zionist war policies. <br /><br />The Zionists have just set up a CIF Watch, much like Campus Watch, so I imagine that Seaton is wetting his pants at the prospect of criticism, because people like him run a mile from any controversy. People like him would have been the first to buckle in the age of McCarthyism (or more likely would have ended up denouncing their fellows as communists).<br /><br />It's a shame really because there was a time, when I contributed some posts (!), when CIF wasn't afraid of debate and facing down these people but that time has gone. <br /><br />It's also commercial. The internet is seen as the future, since print editions are all losing circulation. And if you want to attract advertising you don't offend big business/oil lobbies and anti-Zionism is a big no, no, hence why they employed Seth Friedman, a 'soft' Zionist who supported the genocide in Gaza, as their 'anti-Zionist' bloggerTony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-63114446545036653952009-09-07T07:09:39.152+01:002009-09-07T07:09:39.152+01:00Every time I attempt to equate Zionism with racism...Every time I attempt to equate Zionism with racism, my posts are deleted on "comment is free". I can find nothing at all in CIF's Terms of Use that would justify this.<br /><br />There is overwhelming evidence that Zionists in Israel systematically discriminate against Palestinians in favour of Jews and if this isn't racism what is ?<br /><br />I have complained, asking how I have contravened the rules, but CIF just don't reply.<br /><br />By the way when I say "Zionist" I mean "Zionist" this is not code for something else. Plenty of Jews are not Zionist and many non-Jews are Zionist. You don't (normally) choose to be a Jew, but you DO choose to be a Zionist. Zionism is an OPINION which I (and many others) find to be racist.<br /><br />This is one post that was censored.<br /><br />How much "academic freedom" is enjoyed by the descendents of 800,000 human beings thrown out of what is now Israel in 1948 simply because they were from the wrong race ?<br /><br />If you are a "a proudly Zionist institution" then you must also be "proud" of the ethnic cleansing that was a necessary requirement for the establishment of a Jewish State.<br /><br />You may sugar coat that bitter pill by engaging in outreach to some disadvantaged ethnic minorities that were allowed to remain in what is now Israel, but you can not so easily ignore the racism that underlies the entire Zionist project.<br /><br />A non racist Zionist is a contradiction in terms.<br /><br />I think that the descendents of Palestinians who were driven out in 1948 and the Jews who were expelled from Arab lands as a consequence of the events of 1948, should be allowed a right of return and should be handed their property back. <br /><br />This would be the humane solution and it would give the Jewish and Arab refugees their minimum rights under international law. <br /><br />Does Rivka Carmi agree ?<br /><br />"Academic Freedom" does not mean that it is possible to detach an academic institution from the underlying cultural, political and social realities.<br /><br />This is even more the case when an institution proclaims itself to be "proudly Zionist".<br /><br />(end of quote)<br /><br />I wonder if Tony Greenstein would consider setting up a section for anti-Zionist post censured by CIF ?David Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501242918124674535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-88786453921826479732009-04-15T20:52:00.000+01:002009-04-15T20:52:00.000+01:00HP has of recently even attracted a few Mad Mellia...HP has of recently even attracted a few Mad Mellians (adherents to the Cult of Mad Mel Phlips - the Wicked Witch of The Spectator). Enough said: the sewers of the Tinkerwebs are overflowing into Euston Valley...Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-36834820958453011602009-04-15T17:40:00.000+01:002009-04-15T17:40:00.000+01:00Yes it doesn't surprise me. CIF was under a lot o...Yes it doesn't surprise me. CIF was under a lot of pressure from the Zionists and who better to edit it than Matthew Seaton who knows nothing about these issues and is quite prepared to defer to establishment voices.<br /><br />David T knows a lot about racism, since he runs the anti-Islamic and anti-Arab Harry's Place. Couldn't think of a better chap really!Tony Greensteinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-41606325496907053882009-04-15T14:40:00.000+01:002009-04-15T14:40:00.000+01:00David T has a piece in CiF. It's about... wait a m...<A HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/apr/15/british-jews-antisemitism?showallcomments=true" REL="nofollow">David T has a piece in CiF</A>. It's about... wait a minute... what was it about now? Errrm... oh, yeah! It's about anti-Semitism...Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.com