tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post4352894723200021766..comments2024-03-28T04:26:49.354+00:00Comments on Tony Greenstein's Blog: Connecticut School Killings – Part of an American SicknessTony Greensteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-12792024438829338492013-01-01T02:16:40.435+00:002013-01-01T02:16:40.435+00:00I didn't mean your analysis was pisspoor. I me...I didn't mean your analysis was pisspoor. I meant the analysis in the article itself (removing prayer from the schools led to this massacre!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-34565757657794742062012-12-26T11:23:59.630+00:002012-12-26T11:23:59.630+00:00Hussein was a British imposed tyrant. Nothing to ...Hussein was a British imposed tyrant. Nothing to do with Israel? Obviously you are unaware of the dealings between the Zionist leaders and the journey to see Abdullah by Golda Myerson pre-1948.<br /><br />Most of those who live in Jordan are Palestinians. Yes Hussein was in a desperate battle to save his regime and like all Zionists you support the old and corrupt order in the Middle East.<br /><br />When people resort to the word 'terrorist' they've usually lost the argument. Didn't Begin blow up the King David Hotel amongst other deeds? Terrorists? The Israeli state was founded by them.<br /><br />I'm not even sure what is being argued here. If there were skirmishes between Syrian military and the Jordanian military fine. What is clear is that Assad was opposed, being part of the conservsative wing of the Ba'athists and used the occasion to come to power.<br /><br />If you actually remembered what happened as opposed to reading about it you will know of the reports at the time that the Israeli state, at US instigation, warned the Syrians off helping their Palestinian brothers and sisters being massacred by Hussein. But like all good Zionists you support Arab tyrants. Your contribution to civilisation and democracy in the Middle East.<br /><br />Hussein only won out because the Syrians pulled back. Unfortunately facts and Zionist hasbara rarely mix.<br /><br />And yes, I'm as 'obssessed' about Zionism as people used to be about Apartheid in South Africa and Nazi racial doctrines. Got a problem with that?<br /><br />Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-11260385562644234582012-12-25T23:49:00.054+00:002012-12-25T23:49:00.054+00:00Nice try Greenstein , must do better . Nothing to ...Nice try Greenstein , must do better . Nothing to do with Israel . Hussein was in a desperate battle against Palestinian terrorists who were attempting to overthrow the kingdom aided and abetted by the terrorist gang in Syria <br /><br /><br /><br />On 21 September the Syrian 5th Division broke through the defenses of the Jordanian 40th Armoured Brigade, and pushed it back off the ar-Ramtha crossroads. On 22 September the Royal Jordanian Air Force began attacking Syrian forces, which were badly battered as a result. The constant airstrikes broke the will of the Syrian force, and on the late afternoon of 22 September the 5th Division began to retreat.[24]<br /><br />Hussein was eventually able to see off both with no assistance from Israel or the US . Your problem is that your obsession with Israel has rendered you utterly delusional and prone to mendacity on a grand scale .<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-50082259947978553162012-12-25T21:59:16.252+00:002012-12-25T21:59:16.252+00:00Yes but in your arrogance Mr Anon you fail to ask ...Yes but in your arrogance Mr Anon you fail to ask why the Royal Jordanian Air Force battered the Syrian regiments. In fact Assad became President as a result of what happened in September 1970. This is what Wikipedia says:<br /><br />'In 1970, Syria supported Palestinian guerrillas in their war against Jordan, known as the Black September, and Jadid sent an armored force to aid the Palestinians.[36] Assad opposed Syria's intervention and refused to send the Air Force in support, which allowed the Royal Jordanian Air Force to rout the Syrian forces unopposed and turned the invasion into a disaster.[37] Assad used Syria's defeat in the War of Attrition against Israel between 1967 and 1970 and the Black September affair to discredit Jadid and extend his own control over the Armed Forces and the Ba'ath Party. In two military coups in February 1969 and November 1970, Assad evicted and arrested Jadid and his senior followers in the government, and assumed unchallenged control over Syria.'<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafez_al-Assad<br /><br />Unlike you I remember the events and the Wiki version accords more with the truth than your Zionised version.Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-757972985687094222012-12-25T21:38:59.930+00:002012-12-25T21:38:59.930+00:00Syrian intervention attempt
On September 18, duri...Syrian intervention attempt<br /><br />On September 18, during the time of turmoil, Syria tried to intervene on behalf of the Palestinian guerrillas. President Hafez al-Assad told his biographer, Patrick Seale, that Syria's intervention was only to protect the Palestinians from a massacre. The Syrians sent in armored forces equivalent to a brigade, with tanks, some of them allegedly hastily rebranded from the regular Syrian army for the purpose. Other Syrian units were the 5th Infantry Division (with the 88th and 91st Tank Brigades and the 67th Mechanised Brigade with over 200 T-55 tanks) and Commandos. They were under the command of the Palestine Liberation Army's (PLA) Syrian branch, whose headquarters were located in Damascus, and which was controlled by the government. They were met by the 40th Armored Brigade of the Jordanian Army. The Syrian Air Force, under orders of Assad, never entered the battle. This has been variously attributed to power struggles within the Syrian Baathist government (pitting Assad against Salah Jadid), and to the threat of Israeli military intervention.<br /><br />As King Hussein dealt with threats by both Palestinian refugees in his country and invading Syrian forces, the king asked "the United States and Great Britain to intervene in the war in Jordan, asking the United States, in fact, to attack Syria, and some transcripts of diplomatic communiques show that Hussein requested Israeli intervention against Syria." Timothy Naftali said. "Syria had invaded Jordan and the Jordanian king, facing what he felt was a military rout, said please help us in any way possible."[23]<br /><br />A telegram indicates that Hussein himself called a U.S. official at 3 a.m. to ask for American or British help. "Situation deteriorating dangerously following Syrian massive invasion...", the document said. "I request immediate physical intervention both land and air... to safeguard sovereignty, territorial integrity and independence of Jordan. Immediate air strikes on invading forces from any quarter plus air cover are imperative."[23]<br /><br />On 21 September the Syrian 5th Division broke through the defenses of the Jordanian 40th Armoured Brigade, and pushed it back off the ar-Ramtha crossroads. On 22 September the Royal Jordanian Air Force began attacking Syrian forces, which were badly battered as a result. The constant airstrikes broke the will of the Syrian force, and on the late afternoon of 22 September the 5th Division began to retreat.[24]<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-72280877019517474882012-12-25T13:01:35.282+00:002012-12-25T13:01:35.282+00:00No you remember wrong. It was Israeli threats aga...No you remember wrong. It was Israeli threats against a Syrian intervention which forced Syrian help to turn back. As I said, thousands of Palestinians died and all because of your miserable bastard of a state. So much for your crocodile tears.<br /><br />Instead of focussing on the wrongs done to Palestinians elsewhere, as a consequence of the original expulsions, a little condemnation of land confiscations, olive grove burning, child shackling etc. might establish your bona fides. Otherwise you are a hypocrite.Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-76218561499220004702012-12-25T02:02:46.128+00:002012-12-25T02:02:46.128+00:00And your lack of concern for Palestinians killed i...And your lack of concern for Palestinians killed in Syria is sickening but not surprising . Palestinian lives are of little consequence unless they can be used for propaganda purposes <br />The situation in Syria and events in Israel and Palestine and how they affect Palestinian lives are not mutually exclusive but the deafening silence from the boycott movement proves to the contrary . <br />As for Black September , I seem to recall it was King Hussein s forces that routed a Syrian armoured column going to the assistance of the beleaguered Fatah as they attempted the overthrow of the Hashemite Kingdom . <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-4260862250561447462012-12-24T21:06:43.486+00:002012-12-24T21:06:43.486+00:00Your concern with Palestinians being killed in Syr...Your concern with Palestinians being killed in Syria is touching but nonetheless fake. When thousands of Palestinians were being killed in Jordan in Black September 1970, Israel moved to prevent any help from Syria.<br /><br />This is of course the typical kind of argument we used to get from apologists for Apartheid (South African style)- look at all these terrible Black regimes. let's ignore the White supremacist government. Now it's ignore the Jewish supremacists (it's called 'deligitimisation' as if racial supremacy was ever legitimate).<br /><br />But no doubt Anon. will have the gonads to call for Israel to open its borders to the Palestinians of Syria? No, I thought not. That would hardly do, would it, to readmit the original refugees.Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-10065218214784737982012-12-24T08:31:34.540+00:002012-12-24T08:31:34.540+00:00700 Palestinians killed in Syria and not a word , ...700 Palestinians killed in Syria and not a word , not a condemnation from the PSC . Where are the protests , boycotts , flotillas . Not so much as a tweet . Your concern for Palestinians is a hollow sham . If it was not so , the equivalent of ISM would be operating out of Syria to assist the thousands of Palestinians living there not that you would last 5 minutes in such a hell hole . Far easier to attack an open and transparent democracy which allows you to carry on your nefarious little actions . <br />Hypocrites and worse still cowards , who care not a jot about Palestinians but use them as pawns in your contemptible attempts to undermine and delegitimise Israel . Get some balls Greenstein and take a trip to Syria rather than remain in your parochial Brighton comfort zone . Incidentally Assad is now using a derivative of Sarin gas on its citizens . Looking forward to seeing you outside the Syrian embassy - not . <br /><br />http://m.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2012/Dec-23/199687-700-palestinians-killed-in-syria-conflict-plo.ashx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-42732538356793926732012-12-21T00:36:44.075+00:002012-12-21T00:36:44.075+00:00Tony, there are so many guns in America that we wo...Tony, there are so many guns in America that we would have to be a nation of pacifist saints to avoid a high murder-rate.<br />If you have a bad day, there is always a gun to hand, and with a gun, you can kill without even breaking a sweat. And for an obese populace, that's a plus. After all, if you're irritated or depressed enough, or both, to twitch your finger, You're irritated or depressed enough to kill. And guns are, if you actually don't have one, so available you can arm yourself before the mood passes.Mooserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12294208692136002450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-11915773215821721062012-12-20T00:46:33.433+00:002012-12-20T00:46:33.433+00:00Sorry about that but it was the only site with thi...Sorry about that but it was the only site with this data that I could find. Didn't realise it was the John Birch society. Thought they died with that Dylan song!<br /><br />I don't mind you telling me that my analysis is 'pisspoor' but a little explanation would be helpful!Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-90996145144862663462012-12-20T00:46:18.680+00:002012-12-20T00:46:18.680+00:00Sorry about that but it was the only site with thi...Sorry about that but it was the only site with this data that I could find. Didn't realise it was the John Birch society. Thought they died with that Dylan song!<br /><br />I don't mind you telling me that my analysis is 'pisspoor' but a little explanation would be helpful!Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-60487102964913257792012-12-19T05:40:52.124+00:002012-12-19T05:40:52.124+00:00tony:
did you have to send us to a John Birch Soc...tony:<br /><br />did you have to send us to a John Birch Society (JBS) website for all this info?! Nonetheless, good data despite the pisspoor analysis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com