tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post3616676589316316410..comments2024-03-19T10:34:04.842+00:00Comments on Tony Greenstein's Blog: PSC AGM – A Crushing Defeat For Gilad Atzmon and the Anti-SemitesTony Greensteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comBlogger94125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-81968380061299701922012-02-01T02:13:16.117+00:002012-02-01T02:13:16.117+00:00Unfortunately Anonymous in your frenzy to 'exp...Unfortunately Anonymous in your frenzy to 'expose' my stupidity,you reveal your own.<br /><br />You base the whole of your argument that I obtained the article from Atzmon's site. Wrong. If you click on the article it reveals I got it direct from the institution <br />http://www.hss.cmu.edu/pressreleases/pressreleases/jesselieberfeld.html<br />and the graphic from the article 'Jewish Rebels Rally Against Zionism' http://www.indypendent.org/2009/02/06/jewish-rebels<br /><br />This is proof that even Atzmon occasionally puts up a good, anti-racist article. Perhaps there's hope yet? I suspect that even the Hypocrites Place puts up the odd non-racist article amongst all the BNP style comments.<br /><br />But anonymous - I welcome coverts on the road to Damascus. It shows there's hope yet!Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-66444479391272816932012-02-01T00:20:29.670+00:002012-02-01T00:20:29.670+00:00One wonders where Tony Greenstein first learned of...One wonders where Tony Greenstein first learned of Jesse Lieberfeld’s essay and the acclaim it won.Did he by any chance discover it on the website of the supposed ‘Jew-hater’, Gilad Atzmon?<br /><br />Surely if it was published by Atzmon, it must be, in its essential thrust, something useful to him to further the cause of ‘anti-semitism’. Mustn’t it? Surely an anti-semite and a Jew-hater would not publish a powerful anti-racist piece that showed that Jews were capable of breaking from Zionism and racism, and writing in a way liable to convince others to do the same! How could such an item possibly be publishes by an ‘essentialist’ who supposedly believes that Jews are the embodiment of evil?<br /><br />On the other hand, one could just as well say, why would such an ‘anti-Zionist Zionist’ (sic!) as Tony Greenstein be inspired to publish something the ‘anti-semite’ Atzmon liked so much as an indictment of ‘Jewishness’ that he gave it the full headline treatment? That hardly makes much sense either!<br /><br />mmmmmm told you, your stupidity is exposed..........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-65724318041997568932012-02-01T00:16:09.180+00:002012-02-01T00:16:09.180+00:00Thank u 'red (or is it blue) scribblings.'...Thank u 'red (or is it blue) scribblings.' Of course opposites are equal. Atzmon and myself are the same, as the pro-Zionist pro-War Hypocrites Place blog has taken to saying. <br /><br />Mind in their case it was the only they could say after their disappointment at seeing a holocaust denier expelled from PSC and the adoption of 2 uncompromising motions condemning holocaust denial, racism, Islamaphobia and anti-Semitism.<br /><br />It was an old favourite of the Right that the extremes meet and anti-fascists and fascists 'were as bad as each other.'<br /><br />Clearly too much scribbling and not enough thinking!Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-37447579772738017752012-02-01T00:13:14.118+00:002012-02-01T00:13:14.118+00:00As I have noted previously, both sides of the acri...As I have noted previously, both sides of the acrimonious dispute between the left-wing Jewish trends personified by Gilad Atzmon and Tony Greenstein. Despite the fact that they spend much of their time virulently slandering each other, they actually agree on a great deal.<br /><br />They are both the same.<br /><br />Red ScribblingsRed Scribblingsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-86848182972253981992012-02-01T00:12:58.177+00:002012-02-01T00:12:58.177+00:00Gert
you should take up predicting the future. R...Gert<br /><br />you should take up predicting the future. Right on cue Atzmon, for it is he, writes quoting HP (& therefore Lester) as to why I'm an anti-Semite. He has literally trawled a pro-Zionist site! <br /><br />So according to Atzmon, the arch anti-Semite, who of course is my political enemy, I'm an anti-Semite because HP says so. Next thing he'll be quoting the BNP directly. In fact, come to think of it, he did until he was caught deleting and redeleting material!<br /><br />As for Lester, you have given no one any arguments. All you do is follow in the old Zionist and now Atzmonite tradition of saying all Jews are Zionists and if you oppose Zionism you are anti-Jewish.<br /><br />Your quite right. Although I said 'seems to' (Lester's not one of nature's brightest sparks being a sandwich short of a picnic) I agree. Your stupidity is nothing to do with your genes. It's just that Zionism seems to attract the most stupid, for whom only simple slogans can suffice.Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-50930176549996264152012-01-31T22:12:32.425+00:002012-01-31T22:12:32.425+00:00poor tonyle, the kid that screamed wolf wolf, beca...poor tonyle, the kid that screamed wolf wolf, became the wolf.....<br />even your Zio friend in HP kicked you out as a racist Antisemite.<br />Now the PSC will kick you out too, as the word is spread.<br />Tonyle is an Antisemite.....and a racist.... and an AntiZionist Zio....<br />poor Tonyle looks like you need a new organization I would recomend it will start with a Z.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-200485899504242932012-01-31T22:10:58.737+00:002012-01-31T22:10:58.737+00:00Dixit Lester:
”But just because we are racists wh...Dixit Lester:<br /><br /><i>”But just because we are racists when it comes to Black people doesn't mean we don't oppose 'anti-Semitism'.”</i><br /><br />Yeah, you’re quite the principled guy!<br /><br />Lester reminds me of one of the most vicious racists I’ve ever come across: an antisemite (and Holocaust minimiser), anti-Black, anti-Muslim, anti-gay, ‘Britain is White’ type of neonazi who when called on his racism started trawling Zionist sites for abuse hurled at me, as ‘proof’ of my antisemitism!<br /><br />Did you know that Homo Sapiens sprang up in different places at once on Earth, thereby explaining the different ‘Races’? And that the people who believe this think they’re part of the Master Race? Slightly self-defeatingly perhaps?<br /><br />The last Zionist standing will have a room temperature IQ and I don't mean in FharenheitGerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-44115004553772557222012-01-31T21:58:41.149+00:002012-01-31T21:58:41.149+00:00I gave you all the arguments that you are an Antis...I gave you all the arguments that you are an Antisemite, but you deleted it...........<br />"a lack of grey cells seems almost a genetic quality among Zionists "<br />Ha Ha and u say you are not a racist.<br />How stupid can you be.Lesternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-10081254887212847022012-01-31T18:18:51.289+00:002012-01-31T18:18:51.289+00:00Gert
I know you're right but I'm too much...Gert<br /><br />I know you're right but I'm too much of a liberal Marxist!!<br /><br />No sometimes fools like Lester condemn themselves out of their own mouth. The guy is such an idiot he doesn't realise that accusing someone of 'anti-Semitism' whilst defending the most vile BNP stuff on Hypocrite's Place might be incongruous.<br /><br />But it would seem that a lack of grey cells seems almost a genetic quality among Zionists these days. Once upon a time they had people like Abba Eban, who were cultured and educated, or even the younger Einstein. But now you get muppets like Lester who are, as they say, one sandwich short of a picnic.<br /><br />So I agree with you but on the other hand....Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-61418736234947030712012-01-31T16:24:37.186+00:002012-01-31T16:24:37.186+00:00Tony,
I don’t see the point in further allowing n...Tony,<br /><br />I don’t see the point in further allowing numpties like ‘Lester’ on here. He’s had his idiotic two cents, that should suffice. Over at mine that stuff goes straight in the circular filing system after two outbursts. They can call it what they like.Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-32769218201768143342012-01-31T15:49:30.002+00:002012-01-31T15:49:30.002+00:00Lester still doesn't get it. They say that th...Lester still doesn't get it. They say that there's no fool like an old fool but in Lester's case I'll make an exception.<br /><br />Fact is that if was anti-Semitic or a racist then far from being banned I would be welcomed with open arms by HP. And, although you can't believe what liars like Lester say, HP does have a policy on open comments where it says nothing about bans on racism but believes in free speech.<br /><br />But since HP is an openly racist site now, containing BNP/EDL style attacks on Muslims and in the case I quote Pakistanis (imagine if the word 'Jew' had been substituted) it is inconceivable that anyone could be banned for anti-Semitism. <br /><br />But if Lester insists otherwise maybe he can point to one single example of my having made an anti-Semitic comment on HP? I pointed to its BNP style commentary, to which Alec stated I was banned, as he was obviously annoyed. <br /><br />I also described how Pinhas Rosenbluth, according to Joachim Doron in what became the Journal of Israeli History, later to become Israel's Justice Minister, described Palestine as an "institute for the fumigation of Jewish vermin." Clearly an anti-Semitic remark, but one of many from Zionists.<br /><br />Perhaps the idiot Lester could tell us whether describing Jews as vermin is anti-Semitic? If not then Rosenberg and other Nazi ideologues were also not anti-Semitic and indeed Hitler himself, when describing Jews as a bacillus, was not being anti-Semitic. I'm puzzled, it would seem that Lester approves of this remark because I've been banned for pointing such simple truths out.<br /><br />The reality is that PSC expelled a holocaust denier and specifically stated that holocaust denial and anti-Semitism were incompatible with membership of PSC. This has annoyed Lester and his gang of racists at Hypocrites Place, because their sole purpose for existing is to 'prove' that support for the Palestinians and anti-Zionism is, per se, anti-Semitic and it is on those flimsy grounds, that I have been banned.<br /><br />THis is incidentally despite the fact that even semi-honest posters like Anthony Cooper, have had to admit that it is people like me who took Atzmon seriously at a time when Lester and his mates were having drinkies with Atzmon.<br /><br />So yes Lester I understand what your 'anti-Semitism' ban is about and so too do others. I also understand your disappointment at us having banned the Atzmonites from PSC. Perhaps you would stop working with the EDL now and more to the point, start erasing BNP style racism from HP? Fat chance I'd imagine!!Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-47803733000952517632012-01-31T12:42:44.678+00:002012-01-31T12:42:44.678+00:00You are just doing what is expected as a fool.
Edi...You are just doing what is expected as a fool.<br />Editing comments (I got my originals).<br />Your weak spots are exposed.<br />You can write what you want in my name or any other name .<br />Fact is, you are banned and will be banned because you are an Antisemite.Lesternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-65432683015407483632012-01-30T21:33:23.556+00:002012-01-30T21:33:23.556+00:00I'm grateful to Lester for his latest comment,...I'm grateful to Lester for his latest comment, even if it had to be slightly edited to remove the abuse.<br /><br />HP are opposed to anti-Semitism, except when they take Atzmon out for drinks and praise him for not being a racist! I quote from a joint article by Mad Mikey Ezra and David Toube:<br /><br />'Last week, Mikey invited me for a drink with Gilad Atzmon. <br />Mikey's thoughts on Gilad and his worldview follow, below. <br />Gilad was, I have to say, utterly charming and a delightful drinking companion. ... Is Gilad Atzmon a racist? Not in the narrow sense of being preoccupied by genetic differences between people, certainly. He is rather, I think, a 'cultural essentialist':<br /><br />http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/archives/2007/03/19/gilad_atzmon_and_jewishness.php <br />March 19, 2007 <br /><br />Note that the link doesn't work anymore. Presumably HP has done a springclean of the more embarrassing posts but I have a screenshot!<br /><br />So yes, HP not only praise BNP style racism but Atzmon too is not above a bit of praise.<br /><br />Because, as Zionist and Israel novelist A B Yehoshua said in a speech to the Union of Jewish Students: (Jewish Chronicle 22.1.82):<br /><br />'Even today, in a perverse way., a real anti Semite must be a Zionist.'<br /><br />And that is why the Hypocrite's Place is not only racist, but also anti-Semitic, as it assumes that all Jews hold one opinion - support for Zionism. Birds of a feather....<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/archives/2007/03/19/gilad_atzmon_and_jewishness.phpTony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-50133190356388313192012-01-30T21:15:37.524+00:002012-01-30T21:15:37.524+00:00Tony Greenstein
HP has banned you, because they ...Tony Greenstein <br /><br />HP has banned you, because they purport not to tolerate Antisemites but are happy to publish BNP style racism.<br /><br />It is true that Lamia posted that:<br /><br />'The Pakistani immigrant population alone have contributed a great deal to the anti-Semitic ‘culture’ of the country. The jury’s out on whether they’ve contribute much else. Oh yes, I forgot: white-child prostitution rings. How wonderfully multicultural.’<br /><br />But just because we are racists when it comes to Black people doesn't mean we don't oppose 'anti-Semitism'.<br /><br />Don't you get that. you are going to be banned from every public media same as Atzmon and all other Antisemites.Lesternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-72416524495696423062012-01-30T15:02:19.650+00:002012-01-30T15:02:19.650+00:00Lester says that I edit 'and take out what you...Lester says that I edit 'and take out what you want.' No I removed your abusive assertion that I am anti-Semitic. Those of us who have fought the fascists most of their lives whilst the HP types that Lester supports have opposed all action against indigenous fascists whilst traducing supporters of the Palestinians shouldn't complain.<br /><br />And since the vile HP, home of BNP supporters, has banned me and therefore I cannot respond to their normal defamatory accusations, Lester can hardly complain that I edited his posts!<br /><br />For someone who picks me up on my spelling, to say 'you are week and not able to answer questions.' is a bit much. I am neither 7 or 14 days!!<br /><br />what debate is it that I've lost with you? I didn't know HPers could debate.<br /><br />They are just Police informants and low-life without a single moral other than harnessing the 6 million to justify a few more killings.Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-12463060572321194412012-01-30T14:57:51.074+00:002012-01-30T14:57:51.074+00:00Jason,
You say that 'It is great to know... t...Jason,<br /><br />You say that 'It is great to know... that there is no connection between Christianity (you know Jesus) and hate for the Jews.'<br /><br />I didn't say there is no connection. Clearly Christianity was used to legitimise anti-Semitism at certain periods and to drive it forward, in particular the lower orders of the church, but to say it was the cause of anti-Semitism is absurd.<br /><br />Having studied the holocaust pretty carefully, it appears to me that in most countries the church took on the colour of its surroundings. In Denmark it couldn't be faulted. In The Netherlands the opposition of the Catholic Church to any deportations in fact led to Nazi reprisals against Jewish Christians.<br /><br />In the Baltic countries the church was far worse and in Latvia actually forbade any intercession on behalf of the Jews. The record in Croatia and Slovakia of the Catholic church hardly bears scrutinising, though the Apostolic delegate in Slovakia undoubtedly did a great deal and was decisive in stopping the first deportations, when about 2/3 of the community were deported. In Bulgaria the Church came out decisively against deportations. In Italy it was instrumental in hiding Jews. I could go on. In Germany it was pretty bad - the Protestant church being both the worst and the best.<br /><br />Religion is not fixed, it changes like society. In societies where there is no secular anti-Semitism it was often at the forefront of opposing the deportations.<br /><br />Would that the Jewish religion play any part in opposing racism in Israel. There is certainly is in the driving seat of the most disgusting racism along the lines of Rav Dov Lior's 'A Jewish fingernail is worth a thousand Palestinian lives.' <br /><br />This gutter Judeo-Nazi racism is never commented upon by Zionist clones such as Jason. Jews can do no wrong. Judaism can do no wrong. We are the chosen ones so we make the rules. We certainly owe no solidarity to others.<br /><br />If the Christian Churches had had the same morality as the Jewish rabbinate and religion vs Israel, then the Jewish victims of the holocaust could well have reached 7-8 million.<br /><br />Jewish participation in certain trades wasn't compulsory and sprang out of their role as a trading people. Jason won't understand this as he appears to be the normal thick Zionist, but others might understand that there isn't something special about Jews.<br /><br />Jason asks why I 'always critisize and offend when you find a spelling mistake.' I think he means 'take offence'. Answer is I don't but Lester pulled me up about my spelling and I just pointed out that he was no Shakespeare!<br />So why are you so offended.Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-21886685357166295992012-01-30T09:40:35.303+00:002012-01-30T09:40:35.303+00:00"And one should add that in eg. Poland it was..."And one should add that in eg. Poland it was the nobles and higher orders of the Church who protected the jews, and kings like Casimir the Great."<br /><br />Wow great..... It is great to know from your knowledge, that there is no connection between Christianity (you know Jesus) and hate for the Jews.<br />Amazing to know that Antisemitism has only a background because of what you say "reaction to the Jews' role as money lenders, tax collectors etc." As Jews chose to do those things......<br />Do you realy think that people are so ignorant.<br /><br />BTW you always critisize and offend when you find a spelling mistake.<br />So why are you so offended.Jasonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-50278574243828339272012-01-30T09:28:59.995+00:002012-01-30T09:28:59.995+00:00Well...... that is what I wanted.
You cannot answe...Well...... that is what I wanted.<br />You cannot answer questions, so you edit and take out what you want.<br />I have a record of my original.....<br />no you did not answer anything, as you are week and not able to answer questions.<br />what a low debate.<br />no wonder you lose.Lesternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-39448448279929782112012-01-29T23:00:58.477+00:002012-01-29T23:00:58.477+00:00Lester posted another comment. Because he is unab...Lester posted another comment. Because he is unable to comment without being abusive, I’ve simply answered his salient points within my reply:<br /><br />Lester said...<br /><br /> "Jews wot did it" learn to spell your English......<br /><br />TG: You are the last one to give instructions on the use of English. At least I deliberately misspell something. Try looking at your previous post 'Meaning you Greenstein do NOT fighting Antisemitism'. See what is wrong grammatically? I suggest you look at the mote in your own eye before the beam in others.<br /><br />TG You ask where anti-Semitism comes from. A good question. The first thing is it isn't one continuum as you suggest and is part of the Zionist fable. Medieval anti-Semitism was a reaction to the Jews' role as money lenders, tax collectors etc. They weren't unique and nor was the reaction unique Other people who performed a similar role in other countries - Scots, Chinese etc. met similar responses.<br /><br />The point is that with the development of capitalism and the nation state, anti-Semitism began to become more dangeous. It was based on race not religion. Once a Jew always a Jew whereas historically, medieval/christian anti-Semitism including Luther had always sought the conversion of the jews.<br /><br />And one should add that in eg. Poland it was the nobles and higher orders of the Church who protected the jews, and kings like Casimir the Great.<br /><br />Where does racism come from? The need for capitalism and its predecessors to have a visible target and scapegoat, through the economic functioning of an economy, through originally the resentment of the peasants for whom the Jews were the immediate oppressor.<br /><br />More generally the international division of labour, which ran on national lines. Hence slavery was based on the trade with Africa. British citizens were never ensalved and Lord Mansfield's famous judgment circa 1750 emphasises this when in effect outlawing slavery within the British isles.<br /><br />Hence the British poor were indentured, never enslaved, but I digress.<br /><br />Yes anti-Semitism does discredit support for the Palestinians. It is understandable that people who support the Palestinians are tempted to blame their treatment on 'the Jews' after all Zionism says it represents Jews. But we shouldn't take the word of racist Zionists as to whom they represent. An intelligent solidarity movement will reject the claims of the oppressor, not least their claims on behalf of Jews who reject Zionism.<br /><br />Today anti-Semitism is marginal. it is not a form of state racism, Jews aren't deported or jailed because they are jewish. The main instigator of anti-Semitism is Zionism, which claims that its barbarities are on behalf of all Jews. And a few of their court jesters, like Lester, are always happy to echo this.Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-33940550228845817042012-01-29T17:22:27.402+00:002012-01-29T17:22:27.402+00:00I edited the more virulent abuse out of Lester'...I edited the more virulent abuse out of Lester's comments. <br /><br />But it is correct that I don't oppose anti-Semitism because it is a danger to Jews today. Clearly it isn't. it's a marginal prejudice and even the fascists are pro-Israel and therefore play down their anti-Semitism.<br /><br />So where does 'anti-Semitism' come from? Primarily from those angered by Israel's murderous attacks on an unarmed civilian population who erroneously believe the Zionists that it is all the Jews wot did it.<br /><br />Even Lester should understand that. <br /><br />My primary reason for opposing it in the Palestine solidarity movement is that it discredits support for the Palestinians and opposition to Zionism AND because racist politics and analysis sullies the PS movement and also sidetrack it from an understanding of those who are to blame for Israel's monstrosities to 'the Jews'.<br /><br />Simple. Even Lester should get that. But among the world's evils anti-Semitism today is the least of our problems.<br /><br />Perhaps if Lester and his HP friends were to adopt anti-racism as a principle, rather than an exception just for Jews, then they would not carry BNP style racist abuse on the Hypocrite's Place. <br /><br />But prats like Lester only see racism when Jews are the victim.Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-30040550228475010032012-01-29T17:17:29.195+00:002012-01-29T17:17:29.195+00:00"We oppose anti-Semitism, not because it is d..."We oppose anti-Semitism, not because it is dangerous today, but because it discredits the Palestinian cause "<br /><br />Meaning you Greenstein do NOT fighting Antisemitism,you fight the "issue" as a political tool.<br />You are the lowest, using it..... while on the other hand you claim that Israeli Jews deserve to die.<br />You need any proof, you just claim all the time that you are an Antisemite.Lesternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-17110327197198933622012-01-28T21:18:25.965+00:002012-01-28T21:18:25.965+00:00"tony greenstein and Omar Baghouti look like ...<i>"tony greenstein and Omar Baghouti look like 2 lesbian women."</i><br /><br />It’s often struck me that many racists seem to want the full set [of available racisms]. Not surprisingly perhaps: if you can’t recognise one form then you’re perhaps not well placed to recognise another either. And if you don't mind one, why object to another?Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-45374135643919253552012-01-28T19:03:23.512+00:002012-01-28T19:03:23.512+00:00George,
I know you are pretty stupid, but no one ...George,<br /><br />I know you are pretty stupid, but no one is racist, still less anti-Semitic (which is in any event a marginal prejudice) because you say so. The fact is that you provide no proof, and yet Hypocrite's Place is full of BNP style anti-Muslim and anti-Black comments.<br /><br />The real racists are those who think that being Jewish gives them the right to dispossess the native peoples of Palestine.<br /><br />We oppose anti-Semitism, not because it is dangerous today, but because it discredits the Palestinian cause and causes people to focus on inherent traits in individuals rather than looking at the causes of the existence of the Israel state and its works.<br /><br />As someone who has a little more experience of tackling fascist inspired racism, including anti-Semitism, then I treat with contempt those like George, who use the past racism Jews have experienced to justify the present oppression of the Palestinians.<br /><br />What makes it worse was that during the holocaust the Zionists denied anything was happening at first, then sat on the Riegner cable from Switzerland providing definite proof from August 15 to November 23 1942 and campaigned throughout to oppose emigration of the refugees to anywhere but Palestine.<br /><br />Zionism and anti-Semitism are literally two twins. And people like George denounced 'anti-Semitism' whilst linking up with the EDL and BNP.Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-13835147430298144802012-01-28T18:58:11.220+00:002012-01-28T18:58:11.220+00:00Anonymous said...
tony greenstein and Omar Baghou...Anonymous said... <br />tony greenstein and Omar Baghouti look like 2 lesbian women. <br /><br />As this is one of the more intelligent Zionist comments, at least compared to George above, I thought I should allow it<br /><br />Tony GreensteinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-46892432884384621992012-01-28T18:40:35.840+00:002012-01-28T18:40:35.840+00:00"in fact nearly all of them) need further pro..."in fact nearly all of them) need further proof or evidence of our antisemitism"<br />Gert, you are definitely wrong.<br />You and Greenstein are Antisemites, NO one needs any more proof.Georgenoreply@blogger.com