tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post5533569940360425550..comments2024-03-28T04:26:49.354+00:00Comments on Tony Greenstein's Blog: Police Force Fascist March Through BrightonTony Greensteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-46862013494618591892011-04-27T01:21:06.668+01:002011-04-27T01:21:06.668+01:00Yes it's absolutely crucial that people don...Yes it's absolutely crucial that people don't allow themselves to be kettled. The UAF seem determined at times to kettle themselves!<br /><br />But there is a need for greater organisation and if, as happened on Sunday, the police force the march through the centre of town, then we have to ensure that we can maximise protest there not least to immunise people from these scumTony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-28093704931994348732011-04-26T19:09:28.590+01:002011-04-26T19:09:28.590+01:00I meant less organised in the sense that it would ...I meant less organised in the sense that it would prevent Plod from controlling and suppressing counter demonstration. All those pointlessly kettled would have been more effective in groups spread along key points of the route. Such groups would be useful in agitating the public, many of whom appeared unaware, this would also increase protestor numbers on the day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-47284992903257416972011-04-26T18:13:42.095+01:002011-04-26T18:13:42.095+01:00The first thing we need to do is to mobilise great...The first thing we need to do is to mobilise greater numbers. 2-300 is not enough. We always had at least 5-600 and up to 1,000 in the early 1980's.<br /><br />Agreed that we should absolutely not go to any 'designated protest areas'. We are doing the police's work for them. I agree about groups spreading out but I'm in favour of concerted attacks on the march at certain points which will need more than a handful of people and also, without giving anything away, using more sophisticated tactics.<br /><br />The problem was not we were too organised but that we weren't organised enough!Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-55979989002119285392011-04-26T14:04:38.968+01:002011-04-26T14:04:38.968+01:00Tony,
Re getting heads togethor to see how we can ...Tony,<br />Re getting heads togethor to see how we can disrupt the march next time.<br /><br />In my view protestors need to ignore any "designated protest area", to do so just co-operates with voluntary self kettling and is self defeating.<br /><br />I think a better strategy would be to be less organised and splinter accross the route of the march. The Plod would have greater difficulty "controlling" the counter protest. Groups spread out accross the route, anonymously mingling with day trippers and the general public. Groups can easily co-ordinate with each other on mobile phone. These groups can then strike out at the marchers as they progress along the route, thus ensuring a continual barrage of protest and humiliation to the facists. More effective in my view than a large kettled group controled by Plod.<br /><br />This certainly worries Plod, one one of the occasions when i was asked to go to the "designated protest area", after giving a number of evasive answers, plod replied that he only wanted to know, as it made it helpful for them to "control" the counter protest. next time lets not help them.<br />CWUAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-28405828969858451442011-04-26T12:40:43.795+01:002011-04-26T12:40:43.795+01:00Thanks. Glad u liked the reports. Didn't mea...Thanks. Glad u liked the reports. Didn't mean to say anarchists were only concerned about the Cowley Club. Agreed there are some people who get nicked on sight who would, as you say, be more useful defending the Cowley Club.<br /><br />What I do think is that next time heads need to be put together to see how we can seriously disrupt it given that the police are willing to spend a small fortune protecting the rights of the fascists.<br /><br />The report of the CWU person is pretty spot on. The Police were attacking us for giving offence to the fascists. Unbelievable but the Police share the same attitudes and beliefs of the fascists. They derive from the same sewer. YOu can have all the Racism Awareness Training and Equal Opportunities nonsense you like, but Racist Pigs will always return to the same pig swill, however much you try to make it smell sweet.Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-48790716771725834602011-04-26T10:13:19.512+01:002011-04-26T10:13:19.512+01:00Tony, A great account as ever but I think you'...Tony, A great account as ever but I think you're being a bit unfair portraying anarchists as just being worried about the protection of the Cowley Club. Several individuals have been arrested on sight at these demos and they probably decided they'd be more use in the Cowley Club than a police cell. To me (and hopefully you) that makes perfectly good sense. And as you rightly point out there were loads of Anarchists on the streets too.<br />G.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-61886326246238456492011-04-26T09:50:04.993+01:002011-04-26T09:50:04.993+01:00I agree that there was certainly less than 100 fac...I agree that there was certainly less than 100 facists, who were vastly outnumbered and humiliated by the opposition.<br /><br />Plod were out to stop any form of protest. I was stopped several times whilst trying to avoid the kettle, my crime? carrying a CWU flag. I was told to return to the "designated protest area" when i replied that I was on my way to a trade union party on the beach, the brainless plod let me pass. Not for long though, the group i was with were constantly obstructed by plod, threatened with arrest for forming a counter march along north street. i was told that my counter chants were offensive to the marchers, one of whom offered to "see me afterwards". I asked a couple of plod trying to hold us back, is it not the case that it is an offence to incite racial hatred? yes came the reply, so why are you defending this crime? Plod just shrugged their shoulders! nuff saidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com