tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post1013948154827791188..comments2024-03-28T04:26:49.354+00:00Comments on Tony Greenstein's Blog: Sodastream – 5th month of protestsTony Greensteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-60260064081794028282013-02-03T22:29:34.362+00:002013-02-03T22:29:34.362+00:00Thanks for your kind comments.
I can assure you t...Thanks for your kind comments.<br /><br />I can assure you that I too would like to see a unified anti-Zionist front, but not with someone who expresses only racist and anti-Semitic views and who treats the praise of white supremacist David Duke as an accolade.<br /><br />If one opposes racism then one has to oppose anti-Semitism. I don't say that because I'm Jewish, because anti-Semitism is marginal these days, as I will make clearer when I post on my appearance on Big Questions earlier today.<br /><br />Anti-semitism is no danger to Jews these days but it is of great danger to the Palestinians. Atzmon seeks the answer to Zionism, not in colonialism or big power politics but in his version of Jewish identity. Which is the real reason he opposes BDS.<br /><br />It is unfortunate that we have the Atzmon phenomenon but it is a symptom of a wider malaise. Namely when people despair they look to racist answers and solutions as a short-cut. I've seen this with Frances Clarke-Lowes who was expelled from PSC for being a holocaust denier. I don't doubt Frances supported the Palestinians but he despaired of the solidarity movement. <br /><br />Unfortunately he didn't realise that Israel is only what it is because US and western imperialism (coupled with the collaboration of the Arab regimes) allows it to get away with what it does. Focussing on Jews as Jews simply makes no sense. He looks through the telescope from the wrong end!Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-24964871495376542642013-02-03T22:23:14.510+00:002013-02-03T22:23:14.510+00:00
Mr Greenstein,
I may not like the way you have ...<br />Mr Greenstein, <br /><br />I may not like the way you have digs at Gilad Atzmon, viz because I wish there was a unified front against the zionistas, but you certainly know your history. For that I applaud you and I must say I have learned a lot from your blog. Much appreciated. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-67162968586293194922013-02-02T18:16:29.532+00:002013-02-02T18:16:29.532+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.John Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129185456158114413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-78693312629186450742013-02-01T22:40:37.195+00:002013-02-01T22:40:37.195+00:00One could waste ages of time trying to educate ign...One could waste ages of time trying to educate ignoramuses like 'anti fascist'. Personally I don't think theyr're worth the time. With 'anti-fascists' like that, who needs Fascists?Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-76570625298650526182013-02-01T18:40:20.023+00:002013-02-01T18:40:20.023+00:00Who is calling for an Islamic Palestine? Who has ...Who is calling for an Islamic Palestine? Who has built up the forces of confessionalism and sectarianism if not those who are Zionists and believe in a 'Jewish' state.<br /><br />Why are you so ignorant (apart from being a Zionist!)?. Jews have lived longer in the Middle East outside Palestine. The Iraqi community was 2,500 years old when Zionist leaders at its inception decided they wanted the Iraqi Jews, over 100,000 and 1/3 of Baghdad, to become the new working class of Israel. Hence they did nice little things like plant bombs outside a synagogue and Jewish cafes. It's all been documented in Israel by papers like Haolem Hazeh. If there's no anti-Semitism then why not simulate some - an old Zionist tradition.<br /><br />It is typical of your ignorance to describe Hamas as PSC's friends. More to the point most European fascists - Kaminski of Poland, Ziles of Latvia etc. etc. EDL & so on are your friends. They even make Ziles, friend of the veterans of the Latvian Waffen SS to Yad Vashem, despite him marching with the Nazis each year. As Rudolph Vrba, a real Jewish hero and the co-author of the Auschwitz Protocols said, Israel is a state of Judenrats and collaborators.<br /><br />Jews haven't been allowed to live anywhere in the ME for decades? Really. They've been invited back to all Arab countries. Their position was of course destabilised in 1948 when 3/4 million Palestinians were expelled or butchered, and given it was in the name of all Jews, of course it produced some reaction against local Arab Jews. That is what Zionism does. It creates anti-Semitism amongst those who would have not tolerated it before.<br /><br />The removal of the Jewish state means the removal of privileges from Jews. It's called equality dunderhead, not that Zionists know much about such things, since you traded oppression of Jews in the diaspora for the right to oppress others in Israel.<br /><br />You don't know who Simon Cobb is. Strange you should post under the Sodastream article then. It's true I don't post the usual abusive Zionist comments, you know things like 'pity you and your family didn't die in Auschwitz' stuff. It's very difficult to tell Zionists and fascists apart these days, except fascists deny the holocaust so they are hardly likely to say they wished you died in it. That's a Zionist speciality because most of you are racist scumbags.Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-3525790147827610902013-02-01T16:23:36.933+00:002013-02-01T16:23:36.933+00:00"At no time has PSC advocated the annihilatio..."At no time has PSC advocated the annihilation of Jews in the Middle East, merely the dismantlement of the Apartheid 'Jewish' State."<br /><br />As you are well aware Jews wouldn't last five minutes in an Islamic "Palestine", particularly one ruled by the PSC's friends in HAMAS.<br /><br />Jews haven't been allowed to live anywhere else in the middle east for decades.<br /><br />Removal of Israel = removal of Jews from the Middle East.<br /><br />Oh and I don't know who Simon Cobb is. However you are well aware that I am not an EDL supporter because of my comments about them which I posted under your leader article about an anti-Fascist book launch - but you won't publish that comment, with your typical duplicity.Anti Fascistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-53825172912543181162013-02-01T16:11:10.332+00:002013-02-01T16:11:10.332+00:00The racist 'Anti Fascist' says that the re...The racist 'Anti Fascist' says that the reason that the Jewish community did nothing when the NF marched against shechita was because they were an organisation Jews were frightened of.'<br /><br />The Zionist is of course a liar. The reason was because the leadership of the Jewish community told them, as they had always told them, to keep their heads down. Unlike in 1936 at the time of the Battle of Cable Street they obeyed because Zionism had permeated the community.<br /><br />And Zionism says that Jews don't belong outside Israel, anti-Semitism is inherent in non-Jews and the only way to fight it is to escape to Israel/Palestine.<br /><br />The Jews of the East End were also frightened but they fought back, with communists, socialists and trade unionists - all Zionisms' enemies.<br /><br />Our racist 'anti-fascist' can't help lying again. At no time has PSC advocated the annihilation of Jews in the Middle East, merely the dismantlement of the Apartheid 'Jewish' State.<br /><br />Is a state the same as the people under it? Well that was always the fascist conception. THe people were there to serve the state, so our 'anti-fascist' ends up in bed with this and a few other fascist ideas.<br /><br />But as the poster is probably EDL supporting Simon Cobb then it is unlikely he'd have wanted to oppose the NF anyway.<br /><br />Or is our Cobbian 'anti-fascist' saying that Jews today are cowards compared to the 1930's? Well Zionism is certainly cowardly when it comes to real anti-Semitism but not when it comes to the fake variety.Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-32061969468815953902013-02-01T14:57:22.211+00:002013-02-01T14:57:22.211+00:00"When the National Front held a march against..."When the National Front held a march against Shechita, (Jewish Ritual Slaughter) in Hove and Brighton nearly 20 years ago, there was no participation from the Jewish community or its leaders"<br /><br />That's because the National Front were an organisation Jews were frightened of. They were directly violent towards Jews, whereas PSC simply advocated the annihilation of Middle Eastern Jewry. We find PSC disgusting, sure, but not actually *worrying*.Anti Fascistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-63892995736932479442013-01-31T18:41:25.412+00:002013-01-31T18:41:25.412+00:00The Christians I'm talking about are mad funda...The Christians I'm talking about are mad fundamentalists, who believe that the rest of us should die to fulfill their messianic dreams of 'rapture'.<br /><br />If someone is Jewish and mad then calling them a mad Jew, if they are asserting their Jewishness or defending the indefensible, is not racist. What is racist is if someone were to suggest that all Jews are mad.<br /><br />Nowhere have I stated that these fundamentalist nuts represent all Christians. Thank god (!) they represent a tiny handful of bigots in this country - anti-gay, anti-abortion, pro-Zionist, anti-Arab. <br /><br />Yes criticising one particularly obnoxious and yes mad Christian has clearly got your goat up. Maybe you are one of those who support Israel in the hope that all Jews go there.Tony Greensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300640929161205370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-46414146264750039742013-01-31T18:23:15.557+00:002013-01-31T18:23:15.557+00:00The mad Christian ??
How about the mad Jew . Not ...The mad Christian ?? <br />How about the mad Jew . Not that it would bother you too much . Christians are passive targets for people like you . You are a disgrace . <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-37314881694327201702013-01-30T22:52:04.417+00:002013-01-30T22:52:04.417+00:00 I am not familiar with Ms. Burchill, but if that ... I am not familiar with Ms. Burchill, but if that is her on the couch in the photo, she is barking up the wrong tree in her article.Mooserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12294208692136002450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-12299201585434919752013-01-28T22:37:05.211+00:002013-01-28T22:37:05.211+00:00Julie Burchill: another symptom of the irrationali...Julie Burchill: another symptom of the irrationality of Zionism's supporters. She's positively unhinged...Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640441812647446166.post-45303013694055114672013-01-28T08:42:17.447+00:002013-01-28T08:42:17.447+00:00Nice to have you back on Saturday Tony.Nice to have you back on Saturday Tony.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10315363071882699156noreply@blogger.com