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Thursday, 22 February 2018

Anti-Zionism ‘stems from a history of abuse, whether verbal, physical or worst of all sexual’

The Wit and Wisdom of Jonathan Goldberg QC



‘What sets me apart is good judgement and discretion’ says Jonathan Goldberg QC in his promotional video.  Goldberg is a staunch and dedicated Zionist who has worked pro-bono (free) for the right-wing Zionist ‘charity’, the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism.  It would appear that mention of me made Goldberg lose both his discretion and judgement, to say nothing of his mind.

I must confess that I have developed a thick skin over the years.  Given the variety of Zionist insults, most of them dedicated to trying to get under your skin, you have to immunise yourself as if against a political form of rabies. 

Anyone active in the Palestine solidarity movement, especially if they are Jewish, has to learnt to ignore all sorts of barbs. Lacking any justification for Israel’s barbarous actions or its racist ideology, Zionism, Zionists resort almost as a matter of course to personal insults.
The Royal Courts of Justice where Jonathan Goldberg QC practices
However you would expect that the more respectable and learned of the Zionist establishment to be above that sort of thing.  After all what is the point of an Oxbridge education if, at the end of the day, you end up mouthing the same type of gutterspeak as the common and garden Zionist?
Imagine therefore my surprise when a friend of mine, who converses by email with Jonathan Goldberg, sent me a copy of his latest offering.  Having heard about my recent expulsion from the Labour Party Goldberg asked ‘what was the problem with his family.’  Which is the kind of thing you expect the average gutter Zionist activist to ask.  Because they work on the assumption that no normal person could possibly be an anti-racist or hate his form of chauvinism.  There must be some explanation.

What came next shocked even me.  ‘Was he an abused child.’  Presumably if you support the Palestinians or  before them the Blacks of South Africa you must have been abused as a child.  Perhaps I thought he had mixed me up with another QC, one Lord Greville Janner, against whom there were a battery of accusations of child abuse  Janner though managed to escape his accusers through a combination of Alzheimer’s and death.

Although I wouldn’t normally have intruded into a private conversation I felt sufficiently provoked to email Goldberg and ask him What kind of mental sickness is it that attributes child abuse to political differences?’

Goldberg’s initial instinct was to try and brush it off by pretending that he was so high and mighty that corresponding with me would be ‘dignifying you’.  An hour later, no doubt aware of how this might look, he came back again.  There is a saying that when you are in a hole it’s a good idea to stop digging.  Unfortunately Goldberg was too clever, or so he thought, to pay attention to anything like that.
Back he came informing me that sons (not daughters who presumably don’t have a mind of their own anyway) who ‘strive’ to ‘dishonour’ (read disagree) with their parents  due it because ‘it often stems from a history of abuse, whether verbal, physical or worst of all  sexual.’ 

Clearly Goldberg chose the wrong profession.  He should have been a child psychologist with his fount of experience and wisdom.  No doubt Jonathan would have revolutionised the treatment of autism and bi-polar disorders.  One can barely imagine what innovative explanations would have been offered.  Perhaps their condition was all due to someone taking their toys away or possibly falling out of bed when young.

I have to confess I kinda lost my cool somewhat  accusing him of having the normally diseased mind’ that one expects of Zionist propagandists.  At which point Goldberg responded with a couple of witticisms, or so he thought and I responded in kind.

Goldberg informed me that this will be positively my last communication with you’ except that it wasn’t.  Clearly I’d got under his skin.  Cool logic usually prevails, especially when combined with the promise of a guest appearance on my blog!
Goldberg's profile on the racist Campaign Against Antisemitism site
Now I had a legal warning.  Jonathan had taken exception to the conclusion that seemed obvious to me viz. that he as ‘a prominent QC believes that child abuse, antiracism and anti-Zionism are directly linked".

I must confess I don’t know what other conclusion to draw.  Goldberg doesn’t’ know me.  I doubt we have ever met.  Clearly he knows my father was a rabbi but that is widely known in the Jewish community and amongst Zionists especially.  The only logical conclusion is that Jonathan Goldberg QC attributes anti-Zionist offspring of Zionist parents to child abuse and sex abuse in particular.  

What surprises me is that someone who is clearly intelligent and capable, with a high reputation as a lawyer, can espouse such reactionary rubbish.  It is like all those Nazi doctors of philosophy who commanded the Einsatzgruppen killing squads in Poland and Russia.  Indeed I made the comparison with Hans Frank, the personal lawyer to Hitler who became Governor-General of the Generalgouvernment (Poland). 

It never ceases to amaze me that the most intelligent of people who specialist in one field can adopt in other fields the most stupid of theories.  Because Goldberg is a Zionist he cannot comprehend how anyone can be an anti-Zionist other than that they have suffered some kind of a trauma. 

What is the explanation for this?  That support for Israel being an essentially illogical enterprise.  Israel cannot be defended today on its merits but primarily by abuse of its opponents.  It is therefore necessary for people like Goldberg to cobble together weird conspiracy theories that explain their opponents actions in terms of a pathology.

It is sad that someone so obviously talented has devote those talents to supporting defence of the racist regime in Tel Aviv and the repression that comes in its wake.

Tony Greenstein

Correspondence between Jonathan Goldberg QC and Tony Greenstein
From: JONATHAN GOLDBERG QC <jongold@btinternet.com>
Sent: 20 February 2018 02:23
Subject:
I hear your friend Greenstein got his just deserts.
What was the problem with his family ? Was he an abused child ?
Jonathan Goldberg QC
20 Feb (2 days ago)
Tony Greenstein
21 Feb (1 day ago)
to Jonathan, Michael

Dear Goldberg,

So with all your erudition and learning you think that anti-Zionism stem from child abuse?  Presumably there must have been an epidemic of it before Hitler wiped 6 million of us out.  No doubt the Bund, who led the Warsaw Ghetto Resistance and the resistance to the pogroms, were also the product of child abuse?

What a sad and sick little person you must be to fling around such insults.  One would have thought a Queens Counsel would be above such gutter insults.  Clearly Zionism has a corrosive effect on one's judgement.

Not only are your comments insulting to my dead parents, although I doubt a prat like you would be bothered with insulting two orthodox Jews, including a Rabbi. 

What kind of mental sickness is it that attributes child abuse to political differences?  Do you Zios seem to lack all personal and human empathy.  Your nationalist madness makes you into quite crazed and vituperative individuals despite any pretensions to learning or education.

Maybe you would like to tell me what kind of mental aberration it is that holds that a child of 16, Ahed Tamimi, poses a threat to armed soldiers thus necessitating her indefinite detention whilst armed and thuggish settlers go free?  Is it a psychosis or just a pathology born of a political aberration?

I am sure that your  vituperative and sick comments would be of interest to a wider audience.
Unless I receive an apology that is exactly what will happen.
Tony Greenstein

JONATHAN GOLDBERG QC
07:29 (19 hours ago)
to me

Dear Greenstein,

I did not ask to correspond with you and shall certainly not do so any further and thus risk dignifying you,  save to say that your dead parents must be turning in their graves at your anti Semitic antics, which have finally been recognised for what they are even by the Labour Party. 

Yours sincerely,

Jonathan Goldberg QC

JONATHAN GOLDBERG QC
08:19 (18 hours ago)
to me

Ps

I was aware that your father was a rabbi.  

And it has indeed been my sad observation after very many years of professional experience that where sons strive so desperately to dishonour their parents and negate everything they stood for publicly, as you have done so prominently, it often stems from a history of abuse, whether verbal, physical or worst of all  sexual. 

Tony Greenstein
15:36 (11 hours ago)
to JONATHAN

Dear Goldberg,

You may be a QC but that doesn't prevent you from being a prize idiot and a racist fool.
Indeed you are a bigot for every season.  Children don't 'strive to dishonour' their parents you pompous prig they follow their own paths in life which may or may not coincide with what their parents would like.  I assume that you have no children or none you are willing to admit to.
I have 4 children and wouldn't dream of expecting them to follow in my footsteps.  Your insinuation that my parents were child abusers is a sickening and despicable accusation that comes from the diseased mind of a Zionist liar.  It seems in order to explain why I like many Jews oppose the vile racism of your bastard 'Jewish' state you have to pathologise political disagreements.  You are no better than the old Soviet psychiatrists.

Rest assured that my corresponding with you grants me no accolades.  You are someone with a mind that is little different to that of Hans Frank if you know who he was.
Jonathan Goldberg QC

16:43 (9 hours ago)
to me
Dear dear.

Did we hit a bullseye ?

Jonathan Goldberg QC

From: Tony Greenstein [mailto:tonygreenstein111@gmail.com]
Sent: 21 February 2018 15:36
To: JONATHAN GOLDBERG QC <jongold@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: FILTH

22:19 (4 hours ago)
to Jonathan
no I think you shot yourself in the foot, or was it the butt?
tony greenstein

Jonathan Goldberg QC
22:39 (4 hours ago)
to me
Dear Tony,

this will be positively my last communication with you, because I am mindful of the excellent advice of Lord Mountbatten, who said "never get into a pissing match with a skunk"

Sincerely,

Jonathan Goldberg QC

From: Tony Greenstein [mailto:tonygreenstein111@gmail.com]
Sent: 21 February 2018 22:20
To: Jonathan Goldberg QC <jongold@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: FILTH
23:23 (3 hours ago)
to Jonathan

Dear Jonathan,

The only problem is that it is you who is the skunk.  It would therefore appear as if you have pissed all over yourself.

Anyone who can seriously attribute opposition to Zionism and Israel to child abuse is a pretty sick puppy.  Growing numbers of young Jews, in America especially, are distancing themselves from Israel and Zionism because a 'Jewish' state means discrimination against and expelling non-Jews, such as the thousands of Black Africa refugees Israel is currently trying to force out.  Your visceral racism and chauvinism, the product of a messianic Jewish nationalism stands in opposition to traditional Jewish values of opposition to racism, ethnic nationalism and chauvinism.  Your contempt for universal human values such as solidarity,  sheltering the stranger, solidarity etc. mark out you and your kind as the diseased offspring of the ethno-nationalism of Europe in the 1930's. 

I am though sure that other people will wish to know that a prominent QC believes that child abuse, anti-racism and anti-Zionism are directly linked, not least because there is always a danger that you might end up as a Judge.

Au revoir

Tony Greenstein

Jonathan Goldberg QC
23:34 (3 hours ago)
to me

Dear Tony,

you do me too much honour to imagine that at the age of 70 my ambitions tend to becoming a judge.
I advise you to be very careful how you implement your threats of publicity.

I understand you are keen on libel actions as a plaintiff, and you may otherwise find yourself a defendant.

Feel free to quote accurately from my emails if you so choose.

But to mischaracterise them as you do below tha
t
“a prominent QC believes that child abuse, antiracism and anti-Zionism are directly linked"

would of course be a gross and defamatory distortion of an enquiry made very specifically about you personally, and your very special position regarding your Rabbi father.

And that, positively is my final word for now.

Yours sincerely,

Jonat a prominent QC han Goldberg QC

From: Tony Greenstein [mailto:tonygreenstein111@gmail.com]
Sent: 21 February 2018 23:23
23:51 (2 hours ago)
to Jonathan
Dear Jonathan,

I thought you could not resist the temptation to respond.  Mountbatten is not the best person to quote given the mercurial life he led.

No it's not true that I am keen on libel actions but I have had to undertake a few when people insist on telling wicked lies.

Yes of course I will quote you accurately but I will also put my own interpretation on what you wrote.

You do not know me personally, so you cannot make a specific point about me on such a basis.  You know nothing about me or my family or my parents, both of whom are deceased.  For you to make the grossly offensive comments you did, which strongly implied that they were child abusers is outrageous.  Nor was your point an inquiry but an assertion.

You wrote, in case you have forgotten:

' it has indeed been my sad observation after very many years of professional experience that where sons strive so desperately to dishonour their parents and negate everything they stood for publicly, as you have done so prominently, it often stems from a history of abuse, whether verbal, physical or worst of all  sexual.'

It is clear that you attributed my rebellion, my opposition to Zionism and indeed my atheism, which was my first act of rebellion, to 'a history of abuse, whether verbal, physical or worst of all sexual.'
I think that the inference that I have drawn, that an anti-Zionist rebellion against Zionist parents is a product of child abuse is a reasonable one but either way I am happy to leave such a decision to a jury, unless you wish to withdraw both of your offensive emails.

Tony Greenstein

Jonathan Goldberg QC
23:58 (2 hours ago)
to me

Dear Tony,

I have no intention of withdrawing anything.

The point is that I have written to you, and have not publicised what I wrote.

If you choose to publicise it to the world you must take the consequences if the world thinks the less of you. I am not then liable. You are.

Yours sincerely,

Jonathan Goldberg QC

From: Tony Greenstein [mailto:tonygreenstein111@gmail.com]
Sent: 21 February 2018 23:52
00:01 (2 hours ago)
to Jonathan

Dear Jonathan

no you haven't publicised what you wrote.  I'd be very surprised if you'd want to. 
I seriously doubt 'the world' whoever he is will think any the worse of me on account of what you have written.  I would not hold you liable on that account.

However they may think less of you given the vile nature of what you wrote. 

If you stand by it fine but you do so in the knowledge that it is indefensible by any civilised standards.

Yours sincerely,

Tony Greenstein

Jonathan Goldberg QC
00:04 (2 hours ago)
to me
Goodnight.
Jonathan Goldberg QC
From: Tony Greenstein [mailto:tonygreenstein111@gmail.com]

Sent: 22 February 2018 00:01

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